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- From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gutnberg
- Subject: Re: etext, publishing, and equality of access
- Date: 3 Jan 1993 08:55:46 GMT
- Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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- In article <1993Jan3.034026.22199@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> arc2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (AMY CHARLES) writes:
- > Etext assumes the reader has a computer, or access to a computer, which
- > can handle CD-ROM or has a modem.That's a large assumption; many people
-
- I'm not sure Project Gutenberg actually distributes any texts on
- CD-ROM, although others do distribute the same texts that way. Project
- Gutenberg distributes texts on floppies through the postal system and
- through the Internet, which may, or may not involve modems for the end
- user.
-
- > likely to have computers. Because production costs on disk are so much
- > lower than on paper (distribution too), it's likely publishers will stop
-
- It depends. A CD-ROM costs about $1.25 in large quantities, this may
- not include artwork, or inserts. The cheapest floppy is about $0.25 in
- large quanties, duplication costs can double that. Neither price
- includes the cost of data, royalties, shipping/handling, or software to
- read the files on the disks. There are periodicals with gigabytes (a
- CD-ROM or three worth) of equivalent digital data that cost less then
- either floppy or CD-ROM.
-
- Once all the costs are added in, it just isn't that much lower on a one
- to one basis. The real cost savings is when publishers can use a high
- density medium such as CD-ROM and can pack in hundreds of item spread
- over a year, or thousands of items spread over a month. Either way
- it's not the sort of thing that many individuals buy anyway.
-
- > lower than on paper (distribution too), it's likely publishers will stop
- > publishing certain kinds of books on paper, figuring core markets have and
- > prefer computers anyway.
-
- It will be a long time before that happens for most published material.
- Until there is a hardware that can:
-
- rest in the palm of the hand
- runs weeks or months on batteries
- display full color
- display full sized pages (at least a single magazine page)
- store gigabytes of information
- cost what the bulk of users/publishers can affford
- use media available everywhere paper is or used to be
-
- it won't happen. These specifications are roughly in order of
- increasing difficulty. There already are such palmtop devices, but
- they barely fulfill the first two criteria.
-
- Perhaps a publisher or clearing house might offer a package deal of
- several magazines (perhaps for two or three years). Subscribers could
- choose the digital option and get a "free" reader and disk mailed each
- month.
-
- It's also possible to encrypt the data such that a user buys (or is
- given) a disk then buys the keys needed to decrypt the data that the
- user is interested in. This can lower costs to the publisher, and will
- tend to lower costs to the user.
-
- All this is in the future, perhaps as soon as the next 10 years. Costs
- cannot be high to either publisher or end user, and it has to really be
- better, not merely be as good as, paper.
-
- > be shut out. Having neither computers nor paper copies available, they
- > will be forced out of readship; they will lose access to information
- > previously available ttheoorest literate. I think this would be tragic.
-
- You mean like what has already happened because microforms readers and
- printers are so expensive? Microforms didn't force out readerships, it
- expanded them. Libraries buy both paper and microforms, then junk the
- paper, and thus are able to buy and keep more periodicals than they
- could before. Digital storage could eventually replace microforms
- entirely, and little will change for the user.
-
- > than it is. Many of our strongest, brightest people are self-educated;
- > etext is not democratic enough to allow this.
-
- True, etext does need resources that most people do not have access
- to at the moment. However, paper text is expensive too, it just has a
- lower upfront cost. The self-educated (and many individuals) must make
- heavy use of libraries and other free/cheap sources of paper
- information, they will do the same for digital information.
-
- Already companies and universities throw out in the garbage more
- computing power today that was in the world fourty years ago. An old
- used computer can be as useful as a used manual typewriter. Used
- machines will become more even more useful because the technology is
- getting better faster. A 1972 computer wasn't very useful in 1982, but
- a 1982 microcomputer in 1992 can be actually be useful. This trend
- will probably continue.
-
- The tragedy will not be the exclusive use of digital information over
- paper, but if our infrastructure doesn't keep up with the new
- technology. Project Gutenberg is part of the new infrastructure.
-
- Digital based publishing has the potential to replace all paper based
- publishing. However, the technology and the clientle are not present
- there to make it happen. When it does happen, it is possible for those
- without resources to get locked out, but the very nature of the
- improvements needed to make it happen will make it available to all.
-
- By the way the terms "electronic text" or "electronic mail" become
- misnomers when the primary means of storing and transmitting them is
- optical. Already most data is transmitted optically and techology like
- CD-ROM is also optical. The term "digital text" still has a lot of
- life in it. Life is also filled with misnomers and semantic shifts.
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