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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:02:41 PST
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- Subject: Bad day at the library
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- [From Rick Marken (921231.1400)]
-
- Tom Bourbon (921228 9:23) --
-
- >If you want to get an idea of what behavioral ald life science
- >are like without the realization that living things are in a high-gain
- >negative feedback interaction with their environment, try these two
- >recent collections:
-
- > American Psychologist, Vol. 47, No. 11, November 1992.
-
- >22 articles, an introduction, and a historical note make this a rich
- >source for anyone who needs up-to-the-minute evidence that radical
- >behaviorists say the things we (would-be PCT authors) attribute to them
-
- Forget the radical -- this is conservative, conventional, state of
- the art psychology talking here. I looked it over briefly; very few
- references to PCT, indeed. I guess they figure they can do just fine
- without us.
-
- Interestingly, the author of one of the articles is Charles Catania, with
- whom I've started an off-line conversation about purpose in behavior. I
- sent him my little quote on the importance of determining purpose in
- order to know what an organism is doing (as an alternative to the Skinner
- quote I posted a couple days ago). He was interested in how one might
- determine an animal's purpose; I referred him to my "Behavior in the
- first degree" paper. He suggested that our discussion might move into
- PSYCHOLOQUY -- now where have I heard that name before?
-
- > All in all, these two thick collections gave me a renewed appreciation
- >of the degree to which the idea of high-gain negative feedback control
- >has penetrated the behavioral and life sciences -- not one bit.
-
- Beautifully said; I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read it.
- I think your estimate is accurate to the forth decimal place.
-
- Love and joy
-
- Rick
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