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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:53:52 EST
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- From: "Bruce E. Nevin" <bnevin@CCB.BBN.COM>
- Subject: Re: Apologies
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- (Tom Bourbon (921228 15:50 CST) ) --
-
- >my earlier flippant and hurtful post did more to damage the process I
- >wanted to praise than I care to imagine.
-
- Tom, I winced when I read the earlier post, and my heart goes out
- to you now. I remember with chagrin times I have made similar
- gaffes. Knowing I am too liable to screw up who hears what I try
- now to avoid saying privately what I would not want heard
- publicly.
-
- And what this brought to mind (by way of going up a level, after
- a fashion) was what gossip does for us--a recent topic. What I
- give up if I keep private and public communications (more)
- consistent with each other is this: If I say to you privately
- something that you know I would not say publicly, I thereby
- affirm the intimacy of our relationship. By entrusting you with
- something that I would not want publicly attributed to me I offer
- a token of my vulnerability. By disclosing it you could disrupt
- my public face. (Can you tell I've been re-reading Goffman
- lately?) I expect you to reciprocate, or perhaps it is I who am
- reciprocating an earlier offering of yours. Of such
- reciprocations are alliances made.
-
- Despite the cost of giving up gossip, it does seem better to try
- to make one's private face and public face more congruent to each
- other, not by restricting private communications to a public
- standard, but by seeking honorable and healing ways of being
- forthright in the same ways in both spheres. Needless to say,
- that's a goal, not an achievement--I'm not adept at controlling
- that perception!
-
- Underlying this are ancient mammalian processes of communication.
- Bateson proposes that play originates in acting as if fighting,
- but not hurting. There is no negation in pre-language
- communication (or in imagination). To communicate friendship,
- one appears as though acting as an enemy but in the same moment
- refrains from acting as an enemy. Or one may become vulnerable
- to the other (e.g. wolf rolling on back belly up) and experience
- the other not attacking. Just so then gossip. Losing that
- function of gossip is the cost of cleaving to a single standard.
- But there are other ways of achieving reciprocal exchanges of
- trust and vulnerability.
-
- Thanks, Tom.
-
- Bruce
- bn@bbn.com
-