home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
- Path: sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!convex!constellation!midway.ecn.uoknor.edu!mmmirash
- From: mmmirash@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi)
- Subject: Re: Sexist hypocrites
- Sender: usenet@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu (Usenet Administrator)
- Message-ID: <Bzon6A.764@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:44:31 GMT
- References: <92356.234919HERSCH@auvm.american.edu>
- Nntp-Posting-Host: midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
- Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
- Lines: 48
-
- In article <92356.234919HERSCH@auvm.american.edu> <HERSCH@auvm.american.edu> writes:
- >In article <BzMxsK.HnF@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>,
- >mmmirash@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi) says:
- >>
- >>Those who oppose words such as "stewardess", "heroine", "hostess" are
- >>hypocrites. Their explanation is that these words further the notion that
- >>being a man is the norm and being a woman is a deviant. i.e. there
- >>aren't different words for the male *and* the female. Yet, they
- >>accept the word "woman". The word "woman" comes from "man". (wif-man or
- >>literally "wife of man")
- >
- [..lines where he/she disputes the etymology of "woman" deleted...]
-
- In Old English, the word "man" meant "person" or "human being" and
- when used of an individual was equally applicable to either sex. It
- was parallel to the the Latin "homo", "a member of the human species",
- not "vir", "an adult male of the species". English at the time of
- Ercongota had separate words to distinguish the sexes : "wer" (
- equivalent to Latin "vir") meant "adult male", and "wif" meant
- "adult female". The combined forms "waepman" and "wifman" meant,
- respectively, "adult male person" and "adult female person".
-
- In the course of time "wifman" evolved into the modern word woman,
- and "wif" narrowed in meaning to become "wife" as we use the word today.
- "Man" eventually ceased to be used of individual women and replaced
- "wer" and "waepman" as a specific term distinguishing an adult male
- from an adult female. But "man" continued to be used in generalisations
- about both sexes.
-
- The etymologists on this group will indeed confirm the fact
- that "woman" evolved from "wifman" which itself evolved from "man".
- (as a means of specifying the gender). Now, according to you, if
- "man" is sexist, and so is "hostess", then "woman" itself should
- be sexist.
-
-
- >
- >Love,
- >Herschel
-
- Lots of love,
-
- Mandar.
- --
- "Imagine there's no countries. It isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill or die
- for, and no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace.
- You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope some
- day you'll join us, and the world will be as one." - John Lennon.
-