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- Path: sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!auvm!hersch
- Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:22:38 EST
- From: <HERSCH@auvm.american.edu>
- Message-ID: <92361.172238HERSCH@auvm.american.edu>
- Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
- Subject: Re: Sexist hypocrites
- Lines: 41
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- In article <BzqupJ.LE8@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>,
- mmmirash@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi) says:
- >
- >In article <92358.155839HERSCH@auvm.american.edu> <HERSCH@auvm.american.edu>
- >writes:
- >>
- >>"Wifman" didn't evolve from "man", as you yourself showed; it evolved
- >>from a compound of "wif" and "man".
- >
- >It DID evolve from man. "Man" was gender neutral previously. "wif"
- >was used as a suffix to denote gender.
- >
-
- Do you ever make sense, or is this all there is? In the word "wifman",
- what might the "suffix" be, "wif" or "man"? Actually, neither. It
- is a compound of two nouns. It did not evolve from one of its two
- elements, but from both of them.
-
- >>>(as a means of specifying the gender). Now, according to you, if
- >>>"man" is sexist, and so is "hostess", then "woman" itself should
- >>>be sexist.
- >>
- >>Now this is pretty stupid, don't you think? Is your claim really
- >>what it seems to be? Let me restate it for you: People claim that
- >>to use the word "man" as if it includes women is or can be sexist
- >>or can have the effect of reinforcing sexist patterns of thought.
- >>Many hundreds of years ago, the word "woman" evolved from "wif"
- >>and "man", the latter word at the time carrying no gender information.
- >>Therefore logical consistency requires that we now consider the
- >>word "woman" sexist when applied to women. This is what you're
- >>saying, and it sure sounds dumb to me.
- >
- >If you find it *so* dumb, find a flaw in my argument.
-
- You don't have an argument. It's hard to find a hole in what ain't
- there.
-
- H.
-
- Herschel Browne
- "The" American University
-