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- From: djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns)
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- Subject: Re: chaps
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- Date: 26 Dec 92 21:01:35 GMT
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- In article <baron.92.724957187@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> baron@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Baron) writes:
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- # Can anyone tell me whether the gender neutral use of chaps in the
- # UK or elsewhere has met any resistance? The analogous use of *guy*
- # or *guys* in the US has had a split reception, some people arguing
- # that it is perfectly neutral, others saying it is yet one more
- # example of a masculine doubling as a generic.
-
- Are you aware of anyone who uses "guys" for females or mixed groups
- in the third person? In my experience it's always second person, so
- that no ambiguity is possible, since the sex of the addressees is
- known.
-
- Well, theoretically it could be used to address the males alone in a
- mixed group, but I don't believe I've ever heard such a usage. In my
- suage, in speaking to a mixed group, "Do you guys want to go bowling?"
- would unambiguously address the entire group. If I wanted to single
- out the males, I'd have to say something like "OK, addressing just the
- guys now [third person!], do you want to go bowling tonight?"
-
- David Johns
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