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- From: lukoff@milton.u.washington.edu (Fred Lukoff)
- Subject: Re: A gender neutral pronoun
- Message-ID: <1992Dec26.170805.9021@u.washington.edu>
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- References: <724649705@majors4.cs.duke.edu> <38043@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> <12214@kesson.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:08:05 GMT
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- In article <12214@kesson.ed.ac.uk> iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski) writes:
- >In article <38043@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns) writes:
- >>There is one contingent of anti-theys who claim (1) that the use of a
- >>plural pronoun with a grammatically singular antecedent introduces
- >>unnecessary ambiguity into the language and (2) that this usage is
- >>linguistic engineering -- i.e., an unnatural imposition for social
- >>purposes. My "research" was meant to counter these claims,
- >
- >So did you manage to counter the first claim? Number agreement is one
- >of the sources of information used for anaphora resolution.
- >
- >Re the second claim, I wonder whether it is more frequently made by
- >anti-theys or pro-theys. When I first encountered singular "they", it
- >was introduced to me as a brilliant invention of Big Sister that one
- >had to use because gender-neutral "he" was "sexist". I had no reason
- >to doubt that, so I didn't bother to consult the _OED_ or anything.
- >Besides, singular "they" is frequently being sold side by side with
- >such obvious FemiNewspeak artifacts as "E(m/ir)", "hir" and the like.
- >I have yet to hear a pro-they express an attitude towards those.
- >
- >Sometimes marketing matters more than origin. In many European
- >languages the word for `turkey' means `Turkish/Egyptian/Indian bird'.
- >Now of course the turkey is originally an American bird, but the
- >Middle East was strongly involved in its marketing, so its true origin
- >ceased to matter. In the same way, the effort that the PC people put
- >into selling singular "they" has the power to make it, for all
- >practical purposes, a PC word.
- >
- >--
- > `D'ye mind tellin me whit the two o ye are gaun oan aboot?' (The Glasgow
- >Ivan A Derzhanski (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk; iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu) Gospel)
- >* Centre for Cognitive Science, 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh EH8 9LW, UK
- >* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
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