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- From: russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams)
- Newsgroups: alt.transgendered
- Subject: Re: Hating one's body, was Re: Me? Clueless? Naaah :)
- Date: 21 Dec 1992 02:22:29 -0600
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- scg@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (kelly) writes:
- >russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams) writes:
- >
- >it's been my experience that few males would care to become (or be)
- >female (most wince noticably at the concept of any male losing his
- >equipment). i haven't discussed the issue with too many genetic
- >females (and the one i have doesn't count as she's more masculine than
- >i am).
-
- I sometimes wonder whether that stereotypical wincing at the concept
- of losing one's dick is real or a societal kind of thing, e.g., men
- feel they'd better wince or people might think they're <gay/transexual/
- whatever>. (You know, like how some guys talk about football to
- look macho and fit in, even though they don't care about football.)
- E.g. there's a currently infamous music video by
- Nine Inch Nails where a guy basically gets mutilated; I saw it on
- a call in show and everyone was shuddering about when his dick got it...
- which, to my way of thinking, was only one small part of all that
- happened in the video, and it seemed odd to me to hear so many male
- callers focusing on that one short thing.
-
- Or maybe I really am different; it could tie in with the fact that
- I've never cared about having children and that whole "my genes must
- be propagated" way of thinking that many people seem to have. I wonder
- if there could be a correlation here about wanting to protect one's
- "precious bodily fluids"...
-
- I also wonder whether men might say they have no interest in being
- female again out of worrying what people might think if they admitted it.
- One occasionally sees in popular culture a sympathetic male character
- discuss the idea favorably, e.g. Steve Martin in L.A. Story saying
- "I could never be a woman; if I was, I'd probably stay home all day
- playing with my breasts! :-)", or the Rudy Rucker SF novel Master Of
- Space & Time where the main character basically had a magic wish and
- on an almost unconscious whim turned himself into a gorgeous blonde.
- In both cases, the writers seemed to feel this was not an off-the-wall
- bizarre interest on the part of their characters, i.e., the characters
- were not portrayed as fruitcakes... But I noticed that few men I
- knew talked about those scenes!
-
- Certainly, as another poster observed, I think most people would
- admit to some curiosity and would try a sex change for a few hours or
- a day if it was easy, cheap & safe.
-
- Russ
-