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- From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
- Subject: Re: Sexuality
- Message-ID: <1993Jan01.185941.9656@microsoft.com>
- Date: 01 Jan 93 18:59:41 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <1992Dec30.233732.20913@anasazi.com> <1992Dec31.062907.6352@microsoft.com> <1992Dec31.214245.11967@anasazi.com>
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- In article <1992Dec31.214245.11967@anasazi.com> briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec31.062907.6352@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec30.233732.20913@anasazi.com> briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass) writes:
- >>>
- >>>Why would homosexuality or hetrosexuality have to be taught? That is if
- >>>the class focused solely on the biology of human reproduction, the means of
- >>>suppressing such reproduction, and the types and symptoms of diseases
- >>>transmitted through such reproduction,
- >>
- >> Disease can be transmitted through non-reproductive sexual contact.
- >>Are you suggesting that those diseases, the types of contact that
- >>can potentially spread them, and the methods of preventing that
- >>spread should be excluded from the curriculum?
- >
- >The class should deal with all STDs, and their means of transmission and
- >symptoms. Sorry if I didn't make it clear.
-
- If it's reasonably inclusive, then I think we're in agreement.
- Sounds pretty good to me.
- The Sex Ed class I had when I was in high school was notably
- deficient in the area of non-vaginal sex. I was assuming that you
- were advocating something similar, which it apeears that you aren't.
-
-
- >>> moral questions regarding sexuality
- >>>can be dealt with in a psychology class.
- >>
- >> I don't think anyone is asking for the moral aspects be
- >>examined in the sex ed course. All anyone is asking for is
- >>equal time.
- >
- >Equal time for what? The class focused on the biology of reproduction, and
- >diseases control. Very public health kind of stuff.
-
- Equal time for sexual practices that certain heterosexuals find
- icky. Oral sex can still spread disease - students should know that.
-
-
- > The moral questions
- >are things like when do you have sex with someone? Why? What do religions
- >say on the subject? And things of that nature where generally there are
- >two sides to the coin. These are the kind of questions dealt with in the
- >psychology course. So, I don't see what you're asking for in regards to
- >equal time.
-
- I think our basic assumptions on what would go into the curriculum
- were not the same here. If you're saying what I think you are,
- I think we pretty much agree.
-
-
- >>>At the public high school I went to, Sex-ed was a 6 month course taught by
- >>>a biology teacher. The class was taught in a very clinical manner
- >>>resticted to information of only biological content (reproduction,
- >>>pregnancy prevention, disease control) and it was required.
- >>
- >> How useful was that class to gay students?
- >
- >Very useful, I would guess, since we had no publically avowed 16 year old
- >homosexuals. Disease control is useful regardless of orientation, STDs
- >doesn't discriminate. The class didn't talk about oral copulation, sodomy
- >(that has such a religious connotation, is there a better euphimism, anal
- >sex isn't much better.), as it purpose was to prevent pregnancies and diseases,
- >not on how to.
-
- OK, this is where you lose me. Oral copulation and anal sex
- can both spread diseases. The students should be aware that these
- types of sex exist, and how to prevent disease transmission in those
- cases as well as vanilla vaginal sex. This is useful for students
- regardless of their sexual orientation.
-
-
- > So, for what it was intended, I think it did its job.
-
- Sounds like it fell short, to me. Sounds very much like
- my own sex ed class, in fact.
-
-
- >I still think this is the best way to provide sex-education, and
- >enlightenment, tolerance, and all that other nifty social enginneering
- >to kids. At the right age, and of their own valition.
-
- I like the idea of the separation of the moral and biological
- aspects of sex - I just want that biological portion to be more
- inclusive. It could save lives.
-
- -Phil
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