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- From: fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty)
- Subject: Re: Showering in the Military (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about: )
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:43:31 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.002350.21895@anasazi.com>, briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass) writes:
- |>
- |>>Sodomy is one such offense. Further, Clinton has
- |>>never said that he would lift such sexual conduct rules for gays. What he has
- |>>said, many times, is that there will be changes in these rules. What he wants
- |>>to do is to make them much STRICTER for EVERYONE. If Tailhook is any example I
- |>>would say it's long over due.
- |>
- |>To paraphase what many have proclaimed here: "the military no business in the
- |>private lives (i.e. sexual) of its personnel, and so whether someone is gay or
- |>not should be irrelevant." Not my words, not my thoughts. But looking at
- |>things from their side for a moment, I must ask, if such assertion is true,
- |>mustn't the military do away with all of its rules regarding consential sex?
- |>And obviously I'm not talking about criminal acts.
- |>
- |>You seem to indicate Clinton will make such consential rules stricter.
- |>Well, since sodomy and oral copulation would still be banned, wouldn't this
- |>be discriminatory towards the gay members? After all, there's not much
- |>left, except maybe hand-jobs. 8-). That may offend some, which is not my
- |>intent (maybe a little levity). However, if it is repealed for gays, must not
- |>it also be repealed for hetrosexuals?
- |>
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- Is sodomy (I assume you mean anal) and oral copulation banned between a
- soldier and his/her spouse ? Is it banned between a soldier on leave and
- a civilian when its performed off base ? Certainly, the laws should apply
- equally to all members of the military: gay or straight, married or not.
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- It should be of no concern to the military what type of sex a soldier has.
- But the military may have legitament concerns on who the soldier has sex
- with (another soldier, an officer, etc), and where (on base, on duty).
-
- And one more time...currently the military will kick you out for
- just being gay, even if they have no evidence that you have had
- same-gender sex.
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- Tim Fogarty
- Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1, STS-59
- FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV
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