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- From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
- Subject: Re: Sexuality
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.233922.2539@netcom.com>
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:39:22 GMT
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- smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
-
- >wgb3@pyuxf.uucp (25336-buoni) writes:
- >>
- >> My guess is that what is being sought is acceptance, not tolerance. The
- >> problem is that living a gay lifestyle is not OK (my values). That is not
- >> to say that homosexuals are inherently evil, but that God did not intend us
- >> to function this way. Nor did he intend for us to be sexually active
- >> outside of marriage, indulge in "immoral" behavior, ....
-
- >Which makes me think of something that was said last week about the issue
- >of 'sexuality'...I get the impression that the lesbigay posters view the
- >majority of straight people as sexually repressed, and that a lot of the
- >straight posters feel that lesbigay people are generally more concerned
- >with the issue of sex; sex is more 'important' to them than to straight
- >people. Are both of these views just overgeneralizations, or is there
- >something to either/both?
-
- It's an overgeneralization.
-
- I'm straight and I think that most straight people are sexually
- repressed. I'm not promiscuous. I'm monogamous, and I wait until I
- have an established relationship before I have sex with that person.
- I've practiced safer sex from Day 1. The difference between most
- straight people and myself is that I'm not afraid of or uncomfortable
- with sex. I overcame the "Sex is a horrible, dirty thing that you
- only share with the one you love" message that confuses most children
- in the U.S.
-
- In my opinion, the reason that lesbigay people have the reputation
- they do is because most straight people think that the outspoken ones
- are the only ones out there. Hence, straight people think that
- lesbigays are promiscuous. In reality, gay/bi men don't appear (to
- me) to spend any more time thinking/talking/whatever about sex than
- straight men. I can't speak for the women in this case. What most
- straight people don't realize is that their neighbor, coworker, or
- whomever is gay, simply because they don't exhibit the gay
- stereotypes.
-
- Surprise. 10% of the population is lesbigay. That means YOU (meaning
- everyone reading this) work with, go to school with, etc., lesbigay
- people and you don't even know it.
-
- >> These are my beliefs. I don't expect you to adopt them, nor do I expect you to
- >> accept them. All I ask in return is that you give me the same respect in
- >> return. In my view, teaching my children views which are in direct conflict
- >> with our (my wife and I) values is a violation of this respect.
-
- The problem here is that in respecting your views, others' views are
- ignored. You must respect theirs as well.
-
- The teachings of YOUR God conflict with the views of billions of
- people on this planet. What gives you the right to force them on
- others? You may say that you are not forcing these views on anyone,
- but the default in this country tends to suit your views, so you
- simply don't notice.
-
- If all semblence of sexuality (hetero, homo, or bi) could be removed
- from schools, along with religion and race, only then would it suit
- everyone's views -- in effect by suiting none and allowing for
- personal views to be taught in the home by the parents. Last I
- checked, the parents were supposed to be the ones responsible for the
- child in the first place. When did that change?
-
- However, removing all of these things from the school environment is
- impossible, and IMO, not the best solution anyway. Instead, we have
- to teach children (at home and in school) to feel free to have
- whatever views they (or their parents) wish, but to learn and
- understand that others don't necessarily share those views, and that
- they should not be persecuted for that reason.
-
- In the case of sexuality, we must stop teaching by default that
- homosexuality and bisexuality is wrong. If you want to teach your
- kids this at home (or hand them off to the church like so many
- parents) that's fine by me. Just don't be surprised when their
- opinion is in the minority. Also, don't mourn when a percentabge of
- them who discover that they are lesbigay rebel against their families
- or even commit suicide because their lifestyles are "wrong".
-
- In other words, you're perfectly free to burn you own bridges. Just
- don't do it for everyone else.
- --
- -----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------
- "I think I've reached that point / Where every word that you write /
- Of every blood dark sea / And every soul black night / And every dream
- you dream me in / And every perfect free from sin / And burning eyes /
- And hearts on fire / Are just the same old song" -- The Cure
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