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- From: briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass)
- Subject: Re: Showering in the Military (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about: )
- Organization: Anasazi Inc Phx Az USA
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:34:39 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.183439.17001@anasazi.com>
- References: <1992Dec21.200841.6881@news.columbia.edu> <Bzn89s.87y@andy.bgsu.edu> <1992Dec22.171153.18004@news.columbia.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec22.171153.18004@news.columbia.edu> rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Johnston) writes:
- >In article <Bzn89s.87y@andy.bgsu.edu> jnomina@andy.bgsu.edu (A.P.K.) writes:
- >>rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Johnston) writes:
- >>>
- [deleted stuff]
- >>> How many soldiers do you think have been approached sexually,
- >>> in a harassing manner, by another man in the shower? I'll bet you can't
- >>> think of even one case.
- >>
- >>While I'm not in on this discussion directly, I was a non-com in
- >>the army, and I COULD cite a few cases of such behavior, if you
- >>REALLY wanted me to, from not-too-distant experience. One of my
- >>OWN privates once came to me with this very same problem once.
- >>Infrequent? Probably. Doesn't happen? Not on your life...
- >>
- >>Jim
- >>
- >Let me clarify.
- >
- [deleted stuff]
- >
- >Second, I did not mean to imply that such incedents never occur, only
- >that they are rare, and that the author of the post I responded to, as
- >well as most rabid homophobes, probably has no experience or evidence
- >of any such incedent.
-
- Just as you now attempt to limit the scope of your argument by saying you
- only contend the original poster doesn't have evidence of homosexual
- harassment, what evidence or experience do you have that it doesn't?
-
- I would also like to note that SSgt Pannacia (?) who openly admitted to
- being gay on Good Morning America and was discharged from the Air Force,
- was given an Honorable discharge, at least according to the local
- newspaper.
-
- There was a time that a gay soldier would have been sent to the stockade or
- brig for admitting homosexuality. Only a few years ago, it would have a
- been a general discharge. Now, it seems times have advanced a little more and
- such soldiers get honorables. Times are a changin'.
-
- BTW, in some services, hetro soldiers can still be prosecuted for consential
- sodomy or oral copulation with a women while on base. Should Clinton repeal
- this ban also, while he repeals it for homosexuals?
-
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