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- From: ryonkers@mis.mi04.zds.com (Russell Yonkers)
- Subject: Re: Showering in the Military (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about: )
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.190050.7745@mis.mi04.zds.com>
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:00:50 GMT
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- krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
-
- >In article <00964F02.484AF800@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
- >>Is it written in stone somewhere that recruits HAVE to shower together?
- >>Showering seems to be the big problem with having gays in the military.
- >>Hasn't anyone thought of putting up curtains? Most women's locker rooms
- >>have them. This fear of the shower is IMHO given too much emphasis since
- >>many persons in the military live off base anyway. I agree privacy is
- >>important and the issue should be dealt, but accommodating privacy can
- >>be done without banning gays.
- >>
- >>Flame away!
-
- >No need for flames. You simply know very little about the military. When
- >women were allowed into the military, millions of dollars were spent in
- >order to provide separate facilities for them. Likewise, dollars will have
- >to be spent to provide separate facilities for gays. Before you answer,
- >"They can use the same facilities as heteros." let me ask you: Who will
- >decide that? So far, gays (and a few simpathizers) want to shower with
- >heteros, and don't think it will be a big deal. Most heteros (esp. in the
- >active duty now), will think it is a very big deal. This leads us right
- >back to a point I made about a week ago. Nobody cares a lick about how
- >the heteros will feel about this. We are not PC. We do not matter.
-
- If it is ok for gays and hetero's to shower together then it should be ok
- for males and females to shower together.... opps I forgot that would
- be sexual harrassment for males and females to shower together because
- the males may find the females attractive and lust after them. This
- would not be PC in the least so we must have seperate facilitys for
- the females. But we know of course that the gays would never find a
- hetero attractive because he is not gay and would never lust after
- him. I guess this is equal rights. We know that the PC crowd is
- totally fair and just (NOT!).
-