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- From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
- Subject: Re: Slick Willie
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.194237.1492@nevada.edu>
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:42:37 GMT
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- kbeal@amber (Ken Beal) writes:
- >Roger Phillips (roger@quantime.co.uk) wrote:
- >>Chuck.Lavazzi@launchpad.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) writes:
- >>>does anyone remember the exact quote and source for
- >>>the line about patriotism being the last refuge of the scoundrel?
- >>
- >>"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
- >>-- Samuel Johnson (1709-1784),
- >> Boswell's _Life of Johnson_, vol. 2, p. 344 (6 Apr 1775)
- >
- >I'd like to take exception to this, as well as Asimov's quote from his
- >_Foundation_ series that:
- >
- > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
- >
- >While they >sound< great, they are both grammatically incorrect (or, I am
- >reading the wrong thing into them, which could be the case but I doubt it).
- >
- >If X was the "last refuge" of Y, then wouldn't it make sense that Y would
- >try >everything else< before trying X? I.e. it is their "last resort," as
- >it were? This would be giving Y much more credit than Y deserves (i.e.
- >the quotes are trying to show that Y is wrong/a fool/an idiot, and my
- >grammatical interpretation of them shows that Y will exhaust all options
- >before trying X).
- >
- >It would be much better worded "X is the first refuge of Y", would it not?
- >
- >Just a thought.
-
- My manner of thinking, so you say, cannot be approved.
- Do you suppose I care?
- -- Marquis De Sade
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- :-)
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