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- From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
- Newsgroups: alt.polyamory
- Subject: Re: Intro to me and question for all
- Date: 22 Dec 92 22:14:47
- Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
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- In-reply-to: vicka@wrq.com's message of Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:00:20 GMT
-
- In article <1992Dec22.230020.7673@u.washington.edu> vicka@wrq.com (the Littlest Orc) writes:
- In article <MUFFY.92Dec22124315@remarque.berkeley.edu>
- muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
- > I believe you are "as clear" with your lovers as you are with
- > us. That does not mean that I believe you are being very clear.
-
- And yet you claim to agree with Frances' statement that I was "so
- very clear from the beginning"? Make up your mind.
-
- No, I agreed with her statement that I should assume you have been "just
- as clear" with us as with your lovers. Learn to read.
-
- > Why not "polyamorous"?
-
- Because the term misses a Very Important Point: that I don't *like*
- having multiple simultaneous relationships, and that I prefer my
- lovers one-at-a-time. This is exactly the phenomenon for which I
- use the term "monogamous": to call myself "polyamorous" hides the
- fact.
-
- You seem to be enjoying it, from all that you have posted.
-
- > In fact, you *are* polyamorous, according to *your* definition ("max
- > number of acceptable lovers > 1").
-
- Note one more time: that is not my definition. I cancelled the article
- that contained the "max number of acceptable" phrase, replacing it with
- the term "simultaneous-number-of-lovers" as part of one's preferences.
-
- That was the definition I read. You're so fond of dragging up old
- postings; why would you post something you didn't mean? In any case,
- you have more than one lover simultanenously, so BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION,
- you are still polyamorous.
-
- > Nope, it is within the limitations as it is used by all the other people
- > in our society that I have encountered, other than you and your two or
- > three lovers and/or defenders.
-
- There have been at least five people in this thread who agreed that my
- use of the word fit their definition; I've never even met some of them.
-
- I have had several people agree with me privately. I don't recall the
- exact number, but it was of the same magnitude (5-10). I can't force
- them to post, of course. At least one has said he is so disgusted with
- the whole idea of people in this group agreeing with you that he doesn't
- even *want* to post here anymore.
-
- You've had exactly one supporter in this newsgroup, if you want to do
- it by poll. In *my* experience (and I daresay I've spent more time
- talking over definitions of "monogamy" than you have, since it's a word
- I use for myself), most people don't have a problem in dealing with it
- in reference to a preference for having one lover.
-
- Naturally, since you have such a stake in using the word that way, you
- are going to find friends who think in the same way. Try asking around
- on the net; I didn't find anyone who agreed with you (and I did not post
- either "definition," just the request for a definition).
-
- Muffy
- --
-
- Muffy Barkocy | ~Can you tell me how much bleeding/it
- muffy@mica.berkeley.edu | takes to fill a word with meaning and/
- "amorous inclinations"? Aha! I'm | how much how much death it takes/to give
- not "not straight," I'm *inclined*.| a slogan breath?~ - Bruce Cockburn
-