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- From: mark.terka@rose.com (mark terka)
- Subject: Re: Sex? Magic??
- Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 03:28:17 GMT
- Message-ID: <1993Jan04.032821.25386@rose.com>
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- Date Entered: 01-03-93 22:23
- T(> I note that you have previously separated 'Paganism' from 'Satanism'
- T(> and here you categorize someone's practices (on the information you've
- T(> presented to us?) as 'lurid tales of sexual brainwashing by obscure
- T(> cults'.
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- T(> I suggest that there is much more overlap between Satanism and
- T(> Paganism than may be apparent (follow ups to alt.satanism and/or
- T(> alt.paganism where Pagans will become VERY upset at such a suggestion)
- T(> and that without additional information about this group and its
- T(> practice we cannot really make a fair judgement about whether or not
- T(> they are either 'obscure' or 'brainwashing people'. Perhaps you can
- T(> help me to understand you more by telling me how you'd answer these
- T(> questions:
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- Agreed...I think there IS a lot of overlap between the two points..
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- T(> What is brainwashing?
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- Defined by a Random House Dictionary:
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- "A method for changing attitudes or beliefs esp through torture, drugs or
- psychological stress techniques..
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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- Which fits in with what we are talking about here..
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- T(> Where does mysticism within an organization become 'brainwashing'?
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- To serve an unethical end (such as the material aggrandizement by the
- leaders) as opposed to the original philosophy postulated by the overall
- sects teachings..
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- T(> What is sex magick?
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- The use of the sex act (either hetero/homo) in ritual context to achieve
- magical energies otherwise unattainable through conventional Magickal
- Ritual.
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- T(> How did you come to determine that they were engaged in brainwashing
- T(> rather than sex magick?
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- Sorry...here is where the quote was poorly structured in that it only
- included the first part of the author's hypothesis that it consisted of
- a brain washing technique.
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