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- From: grimoire@byron.u.washington.edu (John Greer)
- Newsgroups: alt.magick
- Subject: Re: Magic and Morals (was: Re: Harish)
- Date: 31 Dec 1992 21:07:22 GMT
- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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- In article <1992Dec31.195852.19954@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Scott Locklin ) writes:
- >In article <1hvf0nINNk8m@uwm.edu> hiho@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
- >>From article <1ht8lsINNbej@shelley.u.washington.edu>, by grimoire@byron.u.washington.edu (John Greer):
- >
- >>> The mechanics of magic do not involve moral principles. The application
- >>> of magic, like any other human action, _necessarily_ involves moral
- >>> principles.
- >
- >The probelm I have with all this (which I _do_ agree with to a certain extent)
- >is the concept of "morality." Because it is inherently subjective, it ceases
- >to have any useful meaning other than that it has to its user. To the NAZIs
- >the "fianl solution" was the moral thing to do in order to save humanity from
- >inferior genetics. There is no way of "prooving" their morality is inferior
- >to ours other than brute force. Too many variables...
-
-
- I ain't arguing. The point is that an approach to action based on moral
- principles -- personally chosen and, yes, subjective -- has certain
- advantages over, say, pure whim, or simple moment-by-moment selfishness.
- Similarly, there's a certain value in having an agreed-upon moral
- standard within a group, however arbitrary, if only to provide some
- kind of basis for cooperation in the face of an often hostile world.
-
-
- >There _is_ a sort of objective morality, or moral absolute. I adressed this
- >question before on alt.satanism. It can be described using game theory & a
- >crude form of cybernetics. I will attempt to find this article.
-
-
- I'd like to see that.
-
-
- -- JMG
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