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- From: grimoire@byron.u.washington.edu (John Greer)
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- Subject: Power (was: Re: Harish)
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 22:06:37 GMT
- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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- In article <1992Dec30.174838.26427@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Scott Locklin ) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Dec29.170528.0204142@locus.com> lowell@locus.com (Lowell Morrison) writes:
- >>Harish, I read your statments the same way as friend BD. If you intend
- >>to learn anything about magik, then the first thing to learn is to better
- >>manipulate symbolism. "a desire for power ect." is generally about power
- >>over others. If you had stated something like "a desire to gain power
- >^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >No. It could be, as you suggest, power over oneself, could be power over one's
- >physical enviornment etc. Perhaps (shudder) it could be power over others.
- >I personally wonder why you worry about this when you go about strutting your
- >"moral power" over this guy.
- >
- >>over myself" or perhaps "a desire to control my own inate power", you
- >>would not have (IMHO) gotten BD's response.
-
-
- Slippery word, "power." Thyagi's probably right that the largest number
- of people who get involved in magic do so for reasons that add up to
- "I want power." That little phrase, though, might mean any of a number
- of things.
-
- Some people use it to mean "control" -- whether of self, of surroundings,
- or of others. Others seem to mean something more like significance of
- action, the ability to have some meaningful effect on any of these things.
- And then -- well, when I got involved in magic, I would have used the
- same phrase, or some variant of it, but with another meaning entirely.
- As if I were an electrical appliance, turned off, trying to find its own
- "on" switch. My desire was to be in contact with power, not to make
- any particular use of it...
-
- -- John Michael Greer
- grimoire@u.washington.edu
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