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- From: Tagi@cup.portal.com (Thyagi Morgoth NagaSiva)
- Newsgroups: alt.magick
- Subject: Adepti/Magister Formulae and Great Persons
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 13:20:50 PST
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- 9212.30 e.v.
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- Ladislas and I had the following exchange:
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- Ladislas:
- ...the many unerving details of his
- life (as described in the gospels) that abound with similarities to parts of
- the magister and events in the apprenticeship of the Adept.
-
-
- Thyagi:
- I WOULD like to hear what details of the Jesus myth correspond with the
- magister and adepti formulae. Since Jesus was probably a composite of
- many mystery-cult protagonists (Osiris, for example), it is not surprising
- that he would retain such symbolic associations. I'd like to discuss
- these if you're game. Perhaps a different thread is necessary, however.
- Then I'd love to examine Buddha's life and Muhammed's and others, if you've
- the time.
-
-
- Ladislas:
- Some of the more important (evident) hints are: the last supper, the wedding
- at Cana, the feeding of the masses (the fish and bread multiplication), the
- crucifiction, to name but a few.
-
- Here's how I establish the correspondances:
-
- the wedding at Cana: wine is running out and Jesus ask for jugs of water
- which he changes into wine. A perfect example of transmutation, wouldn't
- you say? Well it may be that only, but it may also symbolize a part of
- the magister when the white powder is transformed into the red projection
- stone.
-
- the feeding of the masses: a crowd of people has come to hear Jesus preach.
- They are growing hungry. He multiplies bread and fish to feed all. This
- might be seen as the multiplication of the stone. After the Adept has
- complete the magister, the next step is to multiply his stone.
-
- the last supper and the crucifition: bread and wine for a last meal is not
- my idea of the last meal I'd want. The elixir is (according to various
- authors on the subject) a grain of stone in a glass of wine. The stone is
- white for this preparation. Note that in the catholic ritual of the
- communion, those that attend the mass eat the waffer while the priest
- crumbles a larger one into a chalice filled with wine. Note also that the
- ritual also has a part where white and red wine are mixed.
-
- So if the last supper symbolic of the taking of the elixir, the crucifiction
- is the next step for the Adept: the effects of the elixir on his metabolism.
- Accounts vary little on such effects: high fever, loss of hair, teeth and
- nails. After a certain period, the hair, the teeth and the nails grow back
- healthier. The Adept has performed his transmutation and now looks younger.
-
- ========================== end of our discussion.
-
-
- What I'd like to propose is this:
-
- First, can someone define as clearly as possible the formulae
- for the Adepti and Magister? If nobody bites on this I may have
- to revisit _Magick in Theory and Practice_ for some quotes.
- Elsewise perhaps we can drop this thread.
-
- Second, can anybody detail the major events, in chronological
- order, of several great persons? Examples:
-
- The Christ (Jesus)
- The Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama)
- Lao Tzu
- Joan d'Arc
- Katherine the Great
- Mother Theresa
- Muhammed
- Baha'ulla
- Moses
- Cleopatra
- The Virgin Mary
- Mary Magdelene
-
-
- With these we can make a formal comparison, especially the first couple.
- Thanks for your efforts if you go through the trouble. Elsewise I leave
- this as a project for future completion.
-
-
- Thyagi
-