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- From: grimoire@byron.u.washington.edu (John Greer)
- Newsgroups: alt.magick
- Subject: Re: Pentagrams
- Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:35:18 GMT
- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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- References: <1992Dec23.035912.6167@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> <1992Dec23.162455.7996@wl.com> <JOSHUA.92Dec24014950@bailey.cpac.washington.edu>
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- In article <JOSHUA.92Dec24014950@bailey.cpac.washington.edu> joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Dec23.162455.7996@wl.com> anzlovar@wl.com (Bob Anzlovar)
- >writes:
- >
- >> In the last two issues of _Green Egg_, there're a couple articles which
- >> put forth the thesis that _Stranger in a Strange Land_ is really about
- >> Thelema, but doing so without pushing the hot-buttons that most folks
- >> have about Crowley. (Altho Crowley *is* mentioned once in the book.)
- >
- >that's pretty obvious to anyone with even a slight aquaintance with both.
- >
-
-
- True enough. There's also another connection to things magical in that
- particular book of Heinlein's, though -- a sideways and distinctly odd
- one, which I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere...
-
- A few years back I picked up a copy of _No Man Knows My History_, Fawn
- Brodie's first-rate bio of Mormon founder/prophet Joseph Smith. I think
- I was halfway through before I realized why so much of the book seemed
- so familiar: a good chunk of _Stranger_ was apparently drawn directly
- from it. There's a good chunk of Joseph Smith's career in that of
- Valentine Michael Smith, and there's also a lot of Mormonism in general
- -- including the sexual unconventionalness -- in the Church of the New
- Revelation and its founder.
-
- The thing that makes this interesting, and appropriate for this forum,
- is that one of the points Brodie made (and one of the things that most
- drove the Mormon hierarchy into apopleptic fits over her book) is that
- Joseph Smith was a ceremonial magician of the grand old medieval type,
- complete with a shewstone in which he claimed to see spirits pointing
- the way to buried treasure. In several other sources, it's said that
- when Smith (J., not V. M.) was lynched, a standard talisman of Jupiter
- was found on his body -- the kind you'll find in, say, Barrett's _Magus_,
- with the Kamea, seals, and so on. Just the thing for an aspiring
- religious leader!
-
- No question but that all this Mormon material was reworked by Heinlein's
- not inconsiderable creative powers, and mixed with a good dollop of
- Thelema to boot. Still, it's of interest (at least to me) that there's
- more magic in _Stranger_ than meets the eye...
-
-
- -- John Michael Greer
- grimoire@u.washington.edu
-
-