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- From: ba@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (B.A. Davis-Howe)
- Subject: Re: Crowley and Gardner (was re: pentagrams)
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- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 18:05:00 GMT
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- SL500000@brownvm.brown.edu (Robert Mathiesen) writes:
-
- >Doreen Valiente writes about the early history of Gardner's coven, and
- >tells us that it split into two covens around 1957 (hers and another),
- >and that subsequently Gardner left the other coven and proceeded to
- >initiate people on his own. She kept Texts A, B and C as a legacy of
- >these events; and the other coven also appears to possess at least one
-
- Um, Robert misremembered on this one. (The rest of his long post is accurate
- to the sources he and I have both read, though I am not certain that Wicca
- predates GBG. Robert himself doesn't claim that it is certain that there was
- a coven before GBG, just that he finds it likely.) However, back to my point...
-
- Valiente has Gardner's Books of Shadows not from the time she worked with him,
- but as an inheritance at the time of his death. She and he had made up past
- differences enough to become close friends at the time of his death. They
- were still not working together, but GBG apparently decided that she was the
- best person to leave his BoS manuscripts to.
-
- BTW, Robert, I would *love* to see a collection of the texts such as you are
- proposing. One of my major problems (though only one) with Kelly's _Crafting
- the Art of Magic_ is that he extracts from the BAM without giving the whole
- text so that we can see for ourselves what was going on. IMO, anyone reading
- Kelly's work should keep a large container of salt on hand, because his book
- is *very* heavily biased to support his personal issues with GBG. :-(
- Caveat lector!
-
- Enjoy the journey!
- --Br'anArthur
- Queer, Peculiar, and Wyrd! :-)
-
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