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- From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Scott Locklin )
- Subject: Re: Pentagrams
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- Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:44:15 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.162455.7996@wl.com> anzlovar@wl.com (Bob Anzlovar) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.035912.6167@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo The Butcher=) writes:
- >
- >>I am well aware of the fast that most modern earth/pagan cults are based on
- >>fallacies, lies & historical innacuracies, in fact I posted an article to this
- >>effect on alt.satanism not more that 3 weeks ago.
- >>The differnce is, I am a member of a "pagan sect" that _realizes_ its history,
- >>or lack therof. I assume many (I wish most) pagans are aware that their
- >>religions were started in the 1960's as a part of a counterculture fad.
- >
- >The pagan movement got rolling more during that time, but its origins go
- >a little further back than that (but I'm not one of those who say it
- >goes back for generations). Much of the pagan movement goes back to
- >Gerald Gardner (I think that's his first name) & there are those who
- >contend he stole much of his material from Crowley.
-
- Yes, yes and some pagans have nothing to do with either Crowley or Gardener.
- The Sabbeans of Chicago (from spain & before?) come to mind as a notable
- exception. (Interestingly enough, this "authentic" pagan sect is one of the few
- which practices animal sacrifice. Put _that_ in your white-light haloes & smoke
- it!)
-
- >>Shit,
- >>the Church of All Worlds, biggest & most influential pagan sect (according to
- >>the encyclopedia of american religions) in this country, is based on a science
- >>fiction story! *Thou Art God*
- >
- >In the last two issues of _Green Egg_, there're a couple articles which
- >put forth the thesis that _Stranger in a Strange Land_ is really about
- >Thelema, but doing so without pushing the hot-buttons that most folks
- >have about Crowley. (Altho Crowley *is* mentioned once in the book.)
-
- I have heard that Heinlein was an OTO member; sorry no refs...
- His philosophies are certainly remarkably similar to Crowley's, extreme (for
- the era) libertinism & libertarianism...
-
- Since this thread is turning completely from the purpose it was designed,
- please direct any further comments on the history of the relative positions
- of the pentagram to alt.satanism.
-
- -Scott
-