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- From: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)
- Subject: Re: Question: LOTR Wizards
- In-Reply-To: sodonnell@UMASSD.EDU (Sandy O'Donnell)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.015131.18272@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- Reply-To: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 01:51:31 GMT
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- In article <BzqAp4.L6I@umassd.edu>, sodonnell@UMASSD (Sandy O'Donnell) writes:
- >In article <lewchuk.725051453@therien>, lewchuk@cs.UAlberta.CA (Michael Lewchuk) writes:
- >>
- >>Then what is the Flame of Anor that Gandalf wields? The fire of this
- >>greater god or the Third Ring?
- >>
- >> Michael Lewchuk
- >> lewchuk@cs.UAlberta.CA
- > The secret fire: The Holy Spirit, the power giving substance and
- >life to the Creation of Iluvatar. It was this light, also called
- >the flame of Anor that Gandalf served and the evil followers of
- >Melkor and Sauron envied and feared. Probably also the same as the
- > Flame Imperishable......from my Guide to Middle Earth
-
- As I recall, there is a passage in a volume of the _History of Middle Earth_
- (or perhaps in _Unfinished Tales_, but I don't think so), in which the fates of
- the three Silmarils are summarized: The one borne by Earendil for Air, the one
- hurled into the sea by the last scion of the House of Feanor (sorry, but I'm
- writing from the office and only remember an initial "D," probably incorrectly)
- for that element, and the one that fell into a crack in the earth during a
- battle which fell to the center of the earth.
-
- This last is referred to as the Secret Fire.
-
- As for the Flame of Anor: That's the Sun, folks, opposed to Udun "Shadow."
- Nothing hard about it at all. The Sun, after all, was introduced after a long
- period of nought but (weak) starlight, and is precisely the correct weapon and
- threat to use against a creature of the Enemy.
- --
- Rich Alderson 'I wish life was not so short,' he thought. 'Languages take
- such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
- --J. R. R. Tolkien,
- alderson@leland.stanford.edu _The Lost Road_
-