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- From: dzik@access.digex.com (Joseph Dzikiewicz)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien
- Subject: Re: ME maps
- Date: 23 Dec 1992 00:58:52 GMT
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- Allow me to get my flames in...
-
- In article <6177@naucse.cse.nau.edu> wew@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Bill Wilson) writes:
- >And who are you to say that they are not worthy to add to the clear (?)
- >flow of historical research on Middle-earth?
-
- Oh, come on. ICE is not qualified to add to Middle-earth. NO ONE NOW LIVING
- is qualified to add to Middle-earth. Only JRRT was qualified in that he
- had sole possession of the world. CRRT has some claim to interpret the
- works of his father, but I doubt he would get too far by saying, "While
- my father never wrote on this subject, this is the way I think it should
- be."
-
- ICE may well be qualified to make up games based on Middle-earth. That
- does not mean that they are qualified to make up new Middle-earth material
- and have it viewed as in any way definitive.
-
- In the same way, Rankin & Bass, Ralph Bakshi, the brothers Hildebrandt,
- and many others were all qualified to present interpretations on the
- screen of the Tolkien works. However, none of them definitively
- determine how Middle-earth looks. For that, you have to turn to the
- works of JRRT, in some cases as editted by CRRT.
-
- There is, to my view, only one valid method of researching Middle-earth.
- That is examination of the works of JRRT. In so far as ICE does that,
- they are engaged in research on Middle-earth. However, because ICE does
- more than that and continues to fill in the gaps, their work cannot be
- viewed as valid Tolkien research.
-
- To be fair to the people at ICE, I do not believe that they are claiming
- to be presenting research. I think that is clear if you read the
- section quoted at the start of the post to which I am responding:
-
- >Each module is based on extensive research and attempts to meet
- >the high standards associated with the Tolkien legacy. Rational
- >linguistic, cultural, and geological data are employed. Interpretive
- >material has been included with great care, and fits into defined
- >patterns and schemes. ICE does not intend it to be the sole
- >or proper view; instead, we hope to give the reader the thrust of the
- >creative process and the chgaracter of the given area.
- >
- >Remember that the ultimate sources of information are the works
- >of Professor Tolkien. Posthumous publications edited by his son
- >Christopher shed additional light on the world of Middle-earth.
- >
-
- In other words, we've tried to base this on Tokien's works. This is in
- no way definitive. Only Tolkien's works are definitive.
-
- Seems reasonable to me. Let's just not mistake it for scholarship.
-
-