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- From: dzik@access.digex.com (Joseph Dzikiewicz)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien
- Subject: Re: Morality of slaying Orcs (was Re: Thomas Covenant)
- Date: 21 Dec 1992 14:02:40 GMT
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- In article <7127@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> leitm@essex.ac.uk (Leith M F) writes:
- >The long standing feud between Orcs and Dwarves/Elves was clearly a motivation
- >for Gimli and Legolas slaying them, at whatever battle they should be in.
- >The game, IMO, was simply a way of keeping their morale up in a desperate
- >situation.
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- But Gimli, at least, often makes comments that indicate that he looks
- forward to getting into a desperate situation that requires him to kill
- orcs. It really does seem to me to be more sport than anything else
- when he makes comments like (paraphrasing), "Oh boy, battle, I haven't
- chopped anything but wood since Moria!"
-
- >> In fact, the only heroes of LOTR that seem to be in the
- >>habit of letting enemies live in potential combat situations are the
- >>hobbits, starting with Bilbo holding back from killing Gollum.
- >
- >Wrong. All of the Dunlanders who surrendered at Helms Deep were released
- >(after an oath and a little burial work).
-
- Which was after the battle, not during it.
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- >The fact we aren't subjected to endless guilt trips among the
- >good guys doesn't mean they don't feel any guilt at slaying fellow men.
-
- But there is no evidence of such guilt.
-
- I agree that orcs generally need killing, and that the heroes in LOTR
- are justified in all of the killing that they do. I still think that
- it would be nice to see them reflect on the moral ambiguity of
- killing sentients, no matter what the circumstances. I found that
- refreshing in the Covenant books.
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