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- From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
- Subject: Re: Kicked out of a.f.d-q? I don't think so
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:55:48 GMT
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- patrick@growler.owlnet.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
- >nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
- > aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vern Morrison) writes:
- > > I've never before heard anyone claim to have been kicked out of
- > >an unmoderated newsgroup.
-
- > This is admittedly the first time I've ever heard anyone make that
- > claim as well, but I've seen a couple of cases in which hordes of people
- > have posted "requests" for other dissenting persons to butt out and leave
- > a group until they have "learned" more appropriate opinions. Consider the
- > case of Steve Chaney or Jack Schmidling. Basically these two guys have
- > gotten unpopular enough that they can no longer hold fruitful discussions
- > here because people are so busy berating them for past transgressions or
- > trying to put words in their mouthes in order to create new offenses. Both
- > of these individuals have been effectively "kicked out".
-
- >Really? It seems to me that the individuals in question made their own
- >decision to leave. They could have stayed, but they didn't. In case you're
- >too busy defending them to notice, those two you mentioned can't hold a
- >worthwhile discussion for one basic reason: they have no interest in
- >holding one in the first place.
-
- Yeah, they could have stayed and reaped the further rewards of their
- "popularity" but they didn't. I have no real interest in the right or wrong
- of Steve or Jack's positions, and I was not defending them or anything they
- said. My whole point is that, although technically speaking they have a
- right to say whatever they want, they have managed through a combination
- of the ideas they presented and the methods they used to present the ideas
- to make themselves unpopular. So unpopular in fact that they prefer to bug
- out rather than stay around for repeated bludgeoning in repayment for their
- past transgressions. In effect, they *have* been kicked out. You may be
- correct that they deserve it, but that's not relevent to the point I was
- trying to establish which was that they are gone mostly as a result of peer
- pressure.
-
- >It'd be nicer if you'd bother learning just what the two people you're
- >defending did to earn their reputation...
-
- Oh, calm down, Pat. I'm defending their right to have their say, not
- *what* they say. As far as Steve or Jack are concerned I think that their
- faults aren't significantly worse than some of the dumb stunts I've been
- involved in.
-
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