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- From: nmcb@dante.nmsu.edu (Yolanda Thompson)
- Subject: Re: Talking Books, Electronic Text Books, etc.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec27.215124.20616@nmsu.edu>
- Keywords: Study Aids
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- Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
- References: <1992Dec27.160129.8905@panix.com>
- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:51:24 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec27.160129.8905@panix.com> patth@panix.com (Patt Bromberger) writes:
- >Just wondering, for those who are attending classes, which textbooks
- >you are using, how do you get them translated into braille or
- >electronic text (scanner?) or do you use a human reader instead.
- >
- >Is anyone using a closed circuit television set to magnify text in
- >regular text books?
- >
- >Does anyone have any experience ordering textbooks from Recording For
- >The Blind in Princeton, New Jersey or any of their other offices?
- >
- >Any information appreciated.
- >
- >Thank you.
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >--
- >Patricia Ann Bromberger patth@panix.com
- >This quote borrowed from: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org
- >... "It matters not so much what you sing, but why..." J.S. Bach
-
- Well, being a rehabilitation counselor, I can answer yes to all of
- the questions...I have students using CCTV's, students using RFB, and
- students using readers...Here's a little we've discovered about each..
-
- CCTV's are wonderful for those who can use them, and work well for
- such sciences as Math, Chem, etc. However, they are very slow, and
- are not necessarily used at a competitive rate for studying...Plus,
- eyes get tired, and it is nice to have an alternative media to fall
- back on...The difficulty comes with someone who is "newly"
- blinded...It is very, very difficult for them to make the transition
- from learning to absorb things visually to being able to absorb them
- audibly...It is much easier to look at the equation 2x-3y/6 = "?" than
- it is to have someone interpret that verbally...So, CCTV's prove good
- for assisting in that transition...They are also wonderful for maps,
- diagrams, etc.
-
- RFB...Well, it is much better than it was in its beginnings...If a
- student can find their textbooks already recorded RFB is
- fabulous..Often times, you can find your textbook or an earlier
- copyright that means some of the text was simply cut and pasted in
- different places...If RFB doesnt' have the book, it becomes time
- consuming and "ify." In order to have a textbook recorded by RFB, you
- need to purchase 2 copies of your textbook in print and send to
- them..This is for excellent reasons...They take 1 copy and tear it
- into sections, and have different readers work on different sections,
- they keep the other copy of your text in tact to proofread what has
- been taped thus far...You get the "in tact" copy of your textbook
- back...But, when we last checked with RFB (in December of this year),
- they were estimating a 6-month lead time in order to begin your
- textbook...Well, there isn't a way for my students here to predict 6
- months in advance (and obtain the book) what text they are going to
- need...Professors change their mind frequently, and use the latest
- copyrights...So, this ruled out RFB..WE went to Disabled Student
- Services with the texts, and they are beginning taping the books right
- now, so that by the time the student begins her classes in January she
- may have enough information to get her work done.
-
- Readers are possibly the most efficient way to get yoru textbooks
- done, however finding a good reader is difficult...Being a reader for
- someone is very different than reading for yourself, simply because
- when you read for yourself, you read what you feel is important, often
- scanning the areas that you know arent' crucial...But, when you read
- for a blind student you need to read all the information that is
- there, and they'll decide what needs to be skimmed over...I've been
- working with my secretary for 3 years, and still occasionally when I'm
- installing software and don't have access to speech, I have to remind
- her to read "the whole" screen to me....It just takes training, and
- usually the money in it isn't significant enough to keep good
- readers...
-
- Braille textbooks..There aren't any...They stop with Braille
- textbooks in highschools, if they even have them there...Many states
- are working on a "Braille Bill" which mandates that elementary and
- secondary schools make textbooks available in Braille for their
- students...But, at college level I've never found a Braille text...
-
- Hope this helps...
-