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- Path: sparky!uunet!pilchuck!li
- From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
- Subject: Re: Definition of "monogamy"?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.020124.7246@data-io.com>
- Sender: news@data-io.com (The News)
- Organization: Data I/O Corporation
- References: <1992Dec23.165649.5640@netcom.com> <JBrandt-231292124043@aaa.uoregon.edu>
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:01:24 GMT
- Lines: 84
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- In article <JBrandt-231292124043@aaa.uoregon.edu> JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jason) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.165649.5640@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green
- >Dancing Machine) wrote:
- >>
- >> We're having a nice little discussion (read "flamewar" ;-) in
- >> alt.polyamory about the nature of monogamy. I'd like to hear some
- >> thoughts from people in this newsgroup about what it means to them.
- >
- >Jason ponders that question. "Well Pegasus (My wife in RL) and I have had
- >an -exclusively- monogamous relationship the entire nine years plus we've
- >been married, and for most of the four years we dated before that."
-
- Liralen listens to Jason's answer and nods. "Yup. Same situation. I've
- been married for five years that've been exclusively monogamous. For
- the three years before that we were exclusively monogamous for two of
- those years. Hmmm..." she grins. "Should have said, 'I was only non-
- monogamous for a week. Couldn't take any more than that.' John was
- entirely monogamous all eight years. He's entirely built that way, can't
- be any other way. And, yes, he knows about the week.
-
- "I'm like Jason in that I'm poly-inclined, but haven't followed those
- inclinations partially because I know that John's entirely monogamous in
- make up; partially because I promised when we got married; partially
- because I am now deeply involved in pherisis donation and blood donation
- so I'd be endangering others as well as myself if I ever had intercourse
- with anyone; but I'm also finding that, presently, I'm more monogamously
- inclined, the more I put into this rather singular relationship.
-
- "There *is* no one I've ever met that fits me as well as John does. No one
- who shares as much in belief, who has shared as much history with me, no
- one who has *ever* supported me the way that he does, day in and day out,
- through my grumpy, depressed, and dark days as well as enjoying me in my
- light days. And he seems to feel the same way about me, if not even more
- so because of his entirely monogamous makeup.
-
- "For us monogamy has been 'No Intercourse with anyone else' and, as in the
- marriage vows, putting the other as first in our lives before all others.
- As in anyone that gets emotionally involved with me knows, first thing,
- that John's my Number One and his needs come first. That's all there is
- to it. Both John and I have deep friendships with folks who happen to be
- of opposite sex. I've done entirely sexless S/M play with others, mostly
- because John has absolutely no desire for that kind of play. I also fall
- in love with people very easily, but that's not a problem with the two
- strictures above. I've built a lot of loving relationships with those two
- understandings being something I try and communicate first thing.
-
- "So, for us, monogamy doesn't mean that we withold love for others..." she
- quirks a grin and then in her breathless, little girl's voice sings:
-
- "Love is something if you give it away,
- give it away,
- give it away,
- Love is something if you give it away,
- you end up having more...
-
- "I forget the rest of the lyrics, but there's stuff about it being a magic
- penny, and if you lend it, spend it, then soon they'll be rolling all over
- the floor. And we do. We find that loving others makes it easier to love
- each other, to find more about each other to love, and others' love for us
- makes our relationship even easier to support. We know that we can't
- provide *all* of each others needs, and with the others we know that the
- other will get every need met and be happier for it.
-
- "The sex thing is a hard-drawn line, now, with the pherisis donations, it's
- something that's set in stone for me because of the safety factors
- involved." Then Liralen grins a touch wryly, "True to form, I am more
- worried about the hard to others than to myself..."
-
- "It's funny, in a way. Elf!, who is probably the most notorious of
- polyamorous people was the one who pointed out to me just how important it
- was to me to *have* a monogamous relationship and showed me that I really
- *needed* to put John above all else and work through any feelings that
- John had in opposition to anything I might do with S/M. Making my own
- inner priorities totally clear. It was the first time I realized that
- while I'd thought I'd be happier in a polygamous situation, that I
- *actually* was happier with a monogamous situation." She shrugs, "It was
- a bit of a surprise to me, but a pleasent one in many ways."
-
- "So, while I'm monogamous, I also love a lot of people."
-
- --
- Phyllis Rostykus | "... and how you feel can make it real | - _US_
- aka Liralen Li | Real as anything you've seen | Peter
- li@Data-IO.com | Get a life with this dreamer's dream." | Gabriel
-