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- From: bshsiung@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Bernard Hsiung)
- Subject: Re: Quantum (and untutored Zen) and Beliefs (was Re: Absolutes)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.181147.22788@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
- Sender: news@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Mr. News)
- Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:11:47 GMT
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- Thanks, Liralen, and <hi!> to kitten...
-
- Liralen (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:
- >"Personally, I can believe that God exists, because my basic belief is that
- >God is all that is 'good'. Love, life, the top of a mountain, the ease
- >and effort of running down a soccer field, courage in the face of fear,
- >the arc of a dolphin playing with the interface between sea and sky, the
- >scent of a flower, a Didi-spritely smile, the rush of white water in the
- >Skykomish, and any touching of perfection are all God. So I 'know' that
- >God exists, I don't know God's limits, because I believe there are none,
- >especially not those of the human mind or imagination.
- >
- >"But I also accept and 'know' that for some people God doesn't exist
- >because of their beliefs are that God doesn't exist. Just as I know that
- >other people's concepts of who/what God is are very different than mine.
- >I accept that those are right for them, even as I believe that my beliefs
- >are right for me. Even when they contradict. Both contradicting
- >beliefs exist and are valid at the same time for the people holding them.
- >
- >"Does that make any more sense?" she asks.
-
- It does to me. What you believe is powerful, because even if it affects
- none other, it affects _you_ and that makes all the difference. *smile*
-
- I would say that it doesn't really mean anything to speak of the "validity"
- of deeply held, unconfirmable (at least by others) beliefs, except in the
- sense that they are all valid. Certainly nobody has deeply held beliefs
- that they think are wrong! But I think I'm agreeing with you here, Liralen,
- so I'll leave it at that.
-
- Ah, yes. Since I'm up here, I might as well scrawl my name on the
- blackboard. I don't know if my RL demands will allow me to spend much
- time in alt.callahans, but it certainly seems a cozy enough place...
-
- VL: Jedi Squire-in-Training
- (tho' I guess "Squire" will do for short; that, or JSiT, maybe)
- RL: Bernard Hsiung
- Birthday: November 16, 1970
- Favorite Drink: Chocolate milk (*grin*)
-
- --
- Jedi Squire-in-Training (Bernard Hsiung, bshsiung@eecs.umich.edu)
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