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- From: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes)
- Newsgroups: alt.callahans
- Subject: Re: Unbe Awakens
- Message-ID: <105441@bu.edu>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 21:54:12 GMT
- References: <1992Dec15.185921.10271@onetouch.COM> <105249@bu.edu> <1992Dec18.165850.18161@e2big.mko.dec.com>
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- In article <1992Dec18.165850.18161@e2big.mko.dec.com> pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan) writes:
-
- >In article <105249@bu.edu>, mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
-
- >(Excellent personal viewpoint on morality and religion deleted)
-
- >Starknight activates his grav-beams and drifts up to /*. "Let me give you a
- >hand down from here, my friend. Although, while I'm up here..."
-
- >"My personal feelings on this matter are that morality and religion are NOT
- >the same thing. Personally, I find that most people have their own sets of
- >morals, and live by them constantly. Please note that I distinguish morals
- >from societal constraints (i.e., Thou shalt not kill); some people would have
- >no moral qualms about killing someone else. Fortunately for the vast
- >majority of us, society (which includes religions) places certain additional
- >restrictions on us, based on their view of the 'rightness' or 'wrongness' of
- >a certain type of action.
-
- [some deletions - Starknight is talking about his moral but nonreligious
- friend (a Cthulhan?)]
-
- >"Hmmm.... I seem to have gotten off the track, just a little. Oh, absolute
- >moral standards - and whether or not one religion has a monopoly on that. I
- >don't think so, and I'll tell you why - because morals differ from person to
- >person, place to place, time to time. For example, most of us would be
- > (in RL)
- >revolted at the thought of eating human flesh, and would consider it morally
- >wrong. Yet, to our distant ancestors, eating the flesh of a dead enemy was
- >not only a common practice, it was MORALLY right - for, in that way, you
- >showed your respect for his skills... It was morally wrong to leave the body
- >of a conquered foe for the lesser creatures to eat; besides, his ghost might
- >come back to haunt you.
-
- /* is trying to regain his voice after all of the talking (babbling?)
- he has been doing.
-
- "I think this is a good point - all of us are in some sense
- constrained by the time we live in, and by the society we
- developed in."
-
- "Hmmm. If I have Michael's ideas correct, though, a response
- to this might be that our cannibalistic ancestors were pretty
- far away from the 'absolute moral standard,' and that our current
- societal views are closer to that standard."
-
- "Of course, a cynic could say that our ancestors were closer
- to the absolute standard, and we have been in moral decay
- ever since we stopped practicing cannibalism... "
-
- >"Well, enough pontificating." Starknight looks down at the growing pile of
- >soapboxes, then flits to the floor, /* on his back. Activating his pressor
- >beam, he flicks the soapboxes into a darkened corner and orders a
- >rum and tonic.
-
- "Mike, Starknight's drink is on my bill."
-
- Everyone in the place looks startled, since /* never
- had a duck-like mouth _before_ this!!!
-
- "Thanks for the lift down, Starknight!! Much appreciated!"
-
- :)
-
-
-
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