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- From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Removing GOD from morality. (was: Moral liberty)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.185341.3036@cnsvax.uwec.edu>
- Date: 4 Jan 93 00:53:41 GMT
- Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire
- Lines: 42
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- [reply to wooyoung@bu.edu]
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- >I can think of two reasons why we still need to relate morality with
- >religion. The first reason is the natural course of human development.
-
- If I follow your argument, you are saying that learning morality the
- religious way is best for children and simpletons. While I agree that
- not everyone will get to the point that they can handle a course in
- ethics, I still don't see how superstition adds anything to the teaching
- of morality. How is the current method employed by religion superior to
- parental teaching and reinforcing of consistent moral behavior without
- reference to God?
-
- >Well, the second issue is the nature of modern culture...
-
- Here I believe you are saying that our society is too materialistic, so
- we need religion as an institution to encourage people to think about
- larger questions like "What is the meaning of life?", which will in turn
- lead them to more moral behavior.
-
- I disagree that pondering cosmic questions is necessary or even helpful
- to the development of morality. I believe the question about the
- meaning of life is meaningless. I agree that we don't think enough
- about philosophical and ethical questions. However, thinking about
- these things only on Sunday has not done much to make us a more ethical
- society. Much in business and government is immoral. Bigotry is
- rampant. Ethics and moralty should and can be separated from taboos and
- superstition, taught in the home, taught in school (in classes on
- philosophy, ethics, civics, etc.), taught by example by our leaders, and
- enforced by peer pressure. By the way, I believe that it is the
- parent's responsibility rather than the schools to teach values.
- Schools should concern themselves rather with value-neutral teaching of
- the philosophy of ethics. I do think though that if we set aside taboos
- (such as regarding sexual activity between consenting adults), there
- would be surprising agreement on humanistic values.
-
- The basis of morality should be the belief that if we all act ethically,
- we can make the world a "heaven on earth", not that one should behave in
- order to go to heaven.
-
- David Nye
- nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
-