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- From: alpinist@eskimo.com (David Butler)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
- Subject: Re: In Job, Lucifer was proved right!
- Message-ID: <1993Jan2.014956.6474@eskimo.com>
- Date: 2 Jan 93 01:49:56 GMT
- References: <parsons.725691151@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> <1hspfdINNl1o@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> <1992Dec30.221033.22612@zeus.franklin.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec30.221033.22612@zeus.franklin.edu> scruggs@zeus.franklin.edu (Kevin Scruggs) writes:
- >In article <1hspfdINNl1o@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
- >>Oh, the morals that can be drawn from this story! Lucifer was
- >>proved right about Job and Yahweh wrong. Does this mean that we
- >>should take Yahweh's attitudes about how people are and what they
- >>can be with a grain of salt? Does the story show that Yahweh
- >>does not know as much about the people he created as he thinks he
- >>does?
- > It brings up an interesting question: if one's actions can be
- >predicted with certainty (by even a deity) can it be said that free will
- >really exists?...
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- I can look at my past and see exactly what choices I made. I know with
- certainty what I have already done. Does that mean I did not have free
- will at the time? If the past can be fixed and free will still exist,
- then why would free will not exist just because the future is fixed?
- Or in other words, if I know what choices I already made and had free
- will at the time - couldn't the choices I will make be known and still
- be the result of free will?
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