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- From: "James F. Tims" <p00168@psilink.com>
- Subject: Re: Violence in the bible?
- In-Reply-To: <1992Dec30.230514.164970@zeus.calpoly.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:30:40 GMT
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- >DATE: 30 Dec 92 23:05:14 GMT
- >FROM: John Munch <jmunch@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu>
- >
- >In article <1992Dec25.165133.9059@prime.mdata.fi> iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
- >>I remember someone saying (in this newsgroup) that in some part of the old
- >>(or was it new?) testament god commanded some people to kill or destroy others.
- >>Where was this exactly in the Bible?
- >>
- >Ah...there are many such examples in the bible.
- >My favorite is DEUTERONOMY 20 : 10-18
- >Most of Deuteronomy is supplemental to the ten commandments.
- >Someday I'm going to key it in.
- >
- > -John David Munch
-
- Don't bother. All that and more:
-
- DEU 20:10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim
- peace unto it.
-
- DEU 20:11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto
- thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be
- tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
-
- DEU 20:12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against
- thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
-
- DEU 20:13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou
- shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
-
- DEU 20:14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is
- in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and
- thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given
- thee.
-
- DEU 20:15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from
- thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
-
- DEU 20:16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give
- thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
-
- DEU 20:17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the
- Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites;
- as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
-
- DEU 20:18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which
- they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
-
- DEU 20:19 When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it
- to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe
- against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down
- (for the tree of the field is man's life) to employ them in the siege:
-
- DEU 20:20 Only the trees which thou knowest that they be not trees for meat,
- thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against
- the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.
-
- DEU 21:1 If one be found slain in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee
- to possess it, lying in the field, and it be not known who hath slain him:
-
- DEU 21:2 Then thy elders and thy judges shall come forth, and they shall
- measure unto the cities which are round about him that is slain:
-
- DEU 21:3 And it shall be, that the city which is next unto the slain man, even
- the elders of that city shall take an heifer, which hath not been wrought
- with, and which hath not drawn in the yoke;
-
- DEU 21:4 And the elders of that city shall bring down the heifer unto a rough
- valley, which is neither eared nor sown, and shall strike off the heifer's
- neck there in the valley:
-
- DEU 21:5 And the priests the sons of Levi shall come near; for them the LORD
- thy God hath chosen to minister unto him, and to bless in the name of the
- LORD; and by their word shall every controversy and every stroke be tried:
-
- DEU 21:6 And all the elders of that city, that are next unto the slain man,
- shall wash their hands over the heifer that is beheaded in the valley:
-
- DEU 21:7 And they shall answer and say, Our hands have not shed this blood,
- neither have our eyes seen it.
-
- DEU 21:8 Be merciful, O LORD, unto thy people Israel, whom thou hast
- redeemed, and lay not innocent blood unto thy people of Israel's charge. And
- the blood shall be forgiven them.
-
- DEU 21:9 So shalt thou put away the guilt of innocent blood from among you,
- when thou shalt do that which is right in the sight of the LORD.
-
- DEU 21:10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy
- God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
-
- DEU 21:11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire
- unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
-
- DEU 21:12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave
- her head, and pare her nails;
-
- ,...,.,,
- /666; ', jim tims
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- ;;|\..(( -C---->> Kick a little ass, grab a little ass...religion at
- ;;| >- `.__),;; it's finest. Now -- somebody bitch about the xlation.
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