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- From: vanweer@ecf.toronto.edu (VANWEERDENBURG NICHOLAS JOHN)
- Subject: Re: I still wouldn't worship it.
- Message-ID: <C03B59.3HL@ecf.toronto.edu>
- Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
- References: <1992Dec30.013107.158783@zeus.calpoly.edu>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:48:44 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec30.013107.158783@zeus.calpoly.edu> jmunch@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (John Munch) writes:
- >
- > If some entity turned off the force of gravity for half a second today,
- >then I would immediately become a theist, in the sense that I would
- >say that god existed. I still wouldn't worship it. My first reaction
- >would be to figure out how I might be as powerful as this god. If I knew
- >there was some way to turn off gravity, I would want to know how to turn
- >it off. Knowing how to turn it back on again would be helpful too.
- > If this god said he wanted my "soul", I would ask him what the heck is
- >a soul, and I'd tell him to keep his grubby hands away from mine. If this
- >god said there is an afterlife and I had to choose between living in hell
- >or heaven for all of eternity, I'd tell him that in this afterlife I would
- >come and go as I pleased to where ever I pleased, and any entity that
- >tried to keep me confined to only one place would get their ass kicked.
- > I am not a violent person, but I am an individual. I will never submit
- >myself to any other entity, no matter how much more powerful they are than
- >me. If this god threatened my life, then I would do my best to kill god.
- >I am saying all of this to point out that my atheism is much deeper than
- >merely not believing in god. Thoughts?
- >
- > -John David Munch
-
- Its not a question of atheism but of self-respect and freedom. I'd be
- depressed if the Christian god existed. What a horrible creature as described
- by the New and Old testaments. I'd rather be the amazing 'it walks, it talks,
- it thinks' random creation of a chaotic universe than a servile, unrespected,
- sycophantic toy of some meglomaniacal psychotic who runs his own personal
- torture chamber. Of course if this god were a dude that had his own pad
- where he likes to hang with cool humans on equal terms, then I could 'dig'
- that. You know, if he were like Santa Claus. But that ain't what I've been
- hearing. Buddha was a relaxed dude. Him I could hang with. Or Lao-Tsu.
- But this Christian god? I don't think so. Sounds like a knob to me.
-
- -Nick Vanweerdenburg
-