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- From: iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.131418.1353@prime.mdata.fi>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 13:14:18 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec30.011237.23129@arden.linet.org> joeb@arden.linet.org (Joe Beiter) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec29.141114.11620@prime.mdata.fi> iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
- >>
- >>I don't have a study I've made. And this is not a debate/argument.
- >>You can't have one unless you've made a thesis, can you?
- >>
- >
- >Then *I* stand corrected. You came across like you had made some kind of
- >formal study. From my viewpoint, anyone that can confidently state that they
- >know enough about the universe to conclude there is no God is anything but
- >intelligent. I mean no offence by that but I'm sure you can empathize with
- >my reaction to your statement.
-
- Yes. After all you read the nth generation messages, which had gone out of
- topic quite badly.
-
- >
- >
- >>>
- >>>>>Where is your statistical study of this area of intelligence?
- >>>>
- >>>>On my desk.
- >>>
- >>
- >>See above.
- >
- >Not to beat a dead horse but first you say you have a study.. then you don't.
- >.... just pointing it out... I'll assume you were goading for reactions.
-
- Yes, I have a study, but not my own. And second, the topic of the study isn't
- exactly the same as this topic, so it's only a source.
-
- >
- >
- >>By stranglehold I mean that nearly everyone is a believer and no one else
- >>to go to for other opinions.
- >
- >nonsense. You may be able to say this for folks from the Middle Ages where
- >the Roman Catholic Church practically ruled Europe but not in this age.
- >A Islamic or Communist country *maybe* but not the 'West'. Anyone who has
- >not seeked other opinions has not done so by pure choice (stupidly I might
- >add). I don't know about your country but here the majority of people read
- >and have a wealth of ALL types of literature at their fingertips regardless
- >of how rich or dirt poor they are.
-
- Where I live, I have met only a few atheists. Thus, I find it hard to talk
- to someone with differing views.
-
- >
- >>>So if the proof is insufficiant then their intelligence has little bearing on
- >>>their grip on reality. You do not have sufficiant proof that there is no
- >>>God so I find intelligence (or lack of) has little bearing on the valid-
- >>>ity of any religion (much less Jesus Christ).
- >>> ^
- >> |
- >>2) This was meant as a poll for opinions, NOT an argument |
- > |
- > Ok.. that is my opinion then ----------------------------
-
- Yes, but you have to substantiate it/say what made you think so.
-
- >
- >>>
- >>>pssst! Your ego is hanging out all over the place.
- >>
- >>As is your attitude.
- >
- >tou-che' :-)
- >
- >
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