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- From: sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.013812.10458@nmsu.edu>
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- Organization: New Mexico State University
- References: <1992Dec27.135019.7768@prime.mdata.fi> <75972@apple.apple.COM> <1992Dec28.225914.1032@prime.mdata.fi>
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:38:12 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec28.225914.1032@prime.mdata.fi> iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
- >In article <75972@apple.apple.COM> mikel@Apple.COM (Mikel Evins) writes:
- >>Stephen Doe's request for journal citations was perfectly reasonable.
- >>His criticism of your reasoning was completely justified, and he is
- >>perfectly right to say that, as we are unwilling to accept such
- >>feeble reasoning from Christians and other theists, we ought to
- >>insist upon sound reasoning from atheists as well. All your snideness
- >>in response to Stephen's perfectly justified requests does nothing
- >>whatever to improve the quality of your reasoning (though you
- >>could improve it whenever you like by complying with his requests;
- >
- >I am usually very friendly, but I just can't understand people who rush off
- >to flame others, completely inconsiderately. And second, what Doe seems to
- >have warped badly, is that I have no statements or thesis or premises made
- >whatsoever, the post was asking for opinions and what other people could glean
- >from their resources. Let's say, as a comparison, that someone asks you what
- >if we take this route home instead of the usual one, it is shorter, I believe.
- >What kind of psycho goes saying "Give me substatial proof that that route is
- >shorter"? Most people would think for themselves and then agree or disagree.
-
- I'll say this once more, in very simple terms: my first post on the
- subject was simply an expression of concern that there *might* be a
- potential of using this statement as an ad hominen attack on the
- religious. I didn't attack you, just asked for something a bit more
- robust. Surely you agree we shouldn't just engage in ad hominem on
- those we disagree with, but should substantiate any such claims we
- make. (Ah, and I note that now I'm a *psycho* for asking for
- substantiation!) Your response: to dismiss such concerns out of
- hand, and to attack my supposed "emotional attachment" to Christianity
- (which doesn't exist.) That response was very unfriendly,
- condescending and inconsiderate. So do not whine that I have flamed
- you, because if I have those are your just desserts.
-
- SD
-