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- From: sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.072639.3210@nmsu.edu>
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- References: <ofBEMFy00Uh_I2BY9m@andrew.cmu.edu> <1992Dec21.135856.5629@prime.mdata.fi>
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:26:39 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.135856.5629@prime.mdata.fi> iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
- >In article <ofBEMFy00Uh_I2BY9m@andrew.cmu.edu> Michael Loomis <ml3e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
- >>
- >> Though I agree with the general idea behind Mr/s. Paavolainen's
- >>post, that intelligence deters religious belief, I think that when a
- >>intelligent person is ensnared into a religion that they are most
- >>devout.
- >> Let me attempt to explain the mechanism that makes them devout.
- >>Let's consider christian believers since I am most familar with
- >>christianity. The Bible has much silliness and contradictions. The
- >>intelligent christian will have more ability to conjure up some way of
- >>making silly passages seem intelligent and some way of reconciling
- >>seeming contradictions than would a stupid christian. By the act of
- >>making the Bible make sense to himself, the intelligent christian has
- >>reenforced his own belief in the Bible as the truth. Thus, the
- >>intelligent christian has a greater stake in christianity than does the
- >>stupid christian.
- >
- >More often than not, the intelligent person will be drawn away from Christian-
- >ity after discovering these contradictions. Thus, he/she is 99% sure that the
- >stuff in the bible is false. Only if he/she wants to create a 'false God',
- >try to convince himself of the existence of God, to give a sense of security
- >and happiness, will he/she revert to Christianity.
- >As the saying goes, people want to make themselves believe the better more than
- >the worse, no matter how irrational it might seem.
-
- You have stats to back this up too, I presume?
-
- What they usually do is to make additional assumptions about the
- nature of God, reality etc. to harmonize these biblical
- contradictions. I'm not saying it's right to do this, but it must
- take some smarts to cook up some of these remarkable concoctions. . .
-
- >> If my theory is right, then it has implication for atheists who
- >>argue with chirstians on this bboard or elsewhere. By poiniting out a
- >>contradiction in the Bible to the intelligent christian, we may simply
- >>be conditioning him to have greater faith in christianity. (Atheist
- >>should not forget that a clever mind can always find some way to justify
- >>even the most blatant of contradictions. This is called apologetics.)
- >>
- >
- >For an intelligent person to achieve this state, he/she must have an extra-
- >ordinary personality/will. Believe me, this kind of person is rare.
-
- I. e., Calvin, Luther etc.
-
- SD
-