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- From: sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.072026.2803@nmsu.edu>
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:20:26 GMT
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- In article <ofBEMFy00Uh_I2BY9m@andrew.cmu.edu> Michael Loomis <ml3e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
- >Excerpts from netnews.alt.atheism: 19-Dec-92 iq<->religion: connection? by
- >Iikka Paavolainen@mits.m
- >> Am I seeing wrongly, or is there a connection between one's IQ and one's
- >> religiousness? Of all people I know, I know only about 8 exceptionally smart
- >> people (IQ>125), and all of them happen to be atheists. On the contrary, the
- >> dumbest people I've seen (eg. unable to use a remote control) are the most
- >> religious. Observing other atheists that I don't know (from this group for
- >> example) leads me to make a conclusion that on the average, atheists have a
- >> much better sense of logic (and thus usually have a higher IQ) and think much
- >> more clearly than religious people. From my own experiences, I can say that
- >> freeing oneself from the grasp of religion requires a certain level of
- >logical
- >>
- >> thinking. Coincidentally, all these 8 people are mathematically gifted.
- >> When I speak of atheism here, I mean it to be a lack of belief in any god or
- >> superstition.
- >> Opinions?
- >
- > Though I agree with the general idea behind Mr/s. Paavolainen's
- >post, that intelligence deters religious belief, I think that when a
- >intelligent person is ensnared into a religion that they are most
- >devout.
- > Let me attempt to explain the mechanism that makes them devout.
- >Let's consider christian believers since I am most familar with
- >christianity. The Bible has much silliness and contradictions. The
- >intelligent christian will have more ability to conjure up some way of
- >making silly passages seem intelligent and some way of reconciling
- >seeming contradictions than would a stupid christian. By the act of
- >making the Bible make sense to himself, the intelligent christian has
- >reenforced his own belief in the Bible as the truth. Thus, the
- >intelligent christian has a greater stake in christianity than does the
- >stupid christian.
- > If my theory is right, then it has implication for atheists who
- >argue with chirstians on this bboard or elsewhere. By poiniting out a
- >contradiction in the Bible to the intelligent christian, we may simply
- >be conditioning him to have greater faith in christianity. (Atheist
- >should not forget that a clever mind can always find some way to justify
- >even the most blatant of contradictions. This is called apologetics.)
- >
- >Michael Loomis
-
- Hey, don't you dare introduce these complications into Iikka's lovely
- simple correlation!
-
- SD
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