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- From: jeon@carson.u.washington.edu (Sangyong Jeon)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.234010.20861@u.washington.edu>
- Summary: you all are missing one point
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- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:40:10 GMT
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- There is a better explanation of this seeming correlation.
-
- Power.
-
- (As with all sweeping generalizations, no doubt this generalization
- must fail to explain some events. But I believe it is relevant.)
-
- When one feels that one has the power to understand
- and CHANGE one's environment, that person more than likely will not
- believe (fervently) in some form of deity.
-
- It is only because that in the society we live, a Ph.D. or a rich
- person has (real or imagined) some power that they feel no urgent
- desire to resort to some form of all powerful deities.
-
- A Ph.D. or a rich person can become a fundamentalist if s/he
- feels, for whatever reason, powerless and helpless about his/her
- environment. And if somebody less skilled or empowered challenges
- their belief, heaven help him, for the believer will exert all the
- power that s/he does have to quell that blasphemy.
-
- There is one more reason for an already powerful person to become
- an apparently fervent believer. It is when s/he sees in the religion
- an opportunity to expand his/her power. Medieval Inquisition comes to
- mind.
-
- On the other hand, the poor and under-educated feel they don't have
- much power and choice (whether they actually have some power and
- choice is irrelevant to how they feel) as far as their environment in
- this society is concerned. Thus, many of them resort to some form of
- all powerful deity that will fulfill their desires for them.
-
- To the optimists who expressed the hope that the atheist flag would
- fly in the end, I hope you and me are right. But as long as there
- remain people who feel powerless and helpless in a society, I am
- afraid it will remain just that - a hope. Mind you, eradication of
- poverty alone won't eliminate the feeling of powerlessness some feels.
- Even eradication of poverty combined with (good) universal education
- won't do that. In this sense, violence and religion cannot be
- separated. They are just two different manifestations of one human
- desire, the power.
- Just as education and universal rich won't eliminate the violence in
- society, they won't make the religion obsolete.
- It can only be achieved by changing (at least our perception of) human
- nature.
-
- One caution to those who make the connection of brightness and the
- rich.
-
- The connection sounds perilously close to asserting that they
- deserve to be rich because they are smart kids.
- The brightness as much depends on environmental stimuli as it depends
- on the genetic talents.
- Don't you think rich kids show more skill because they generally tend
- to have good care and education from the start, a vicious circle?
-
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- jeon
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