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- From: mikel@Apple.COM (Mikel Evins)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Reconciling OT with NT
- Message-ID: <75907@apple.apple.COM>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 21:30:08 GMT
- References: <1992Dec23.084332.2995@cnsvax.uwec.edu> <1992Dec23.171535.14493@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA
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- In article <1992Dec23.171535.14493@mksol.dseg.ti.com> noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.084332.2995@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye) writes:
- >|> We atheists of course avoid this problem because we deny the existence
- >|> of a soul or any other kind of mind/body duality. Killing is wrong in
- >|> our view not because it deprives a soul of its human body but because it
- >|> deprives a sentient being of the esperience of life. The more sentient
- >|> the being, the worse the crime. Killing an adult ape is thus worse than
- >|> killing a fetus which is not yet capable of any self-awareness. In our
- >|> eyes, it is morally inconsistent to be against abortion unless one is
- >|> also a vegitarian.
- >
- >Oh , so *that's* what we atheists believe! :->
-
- I concur with your implication that it is a mistake to assume that
- all atheists have the same position or the same reasoning on
- such questions.
-
- >Actually, I have to disagree. Perhaps its arrogant of me, but I'll
- >pick the human over the animal any day, no matter the sentience
- >level invovled. If you had a chance to save a baby or a grown
- >gorilla from an onrushing truck, which would you pick?
-
- I have no a priori preference, and would therefore make the decision
- on other than moral grounds, unless there were other moral considerations.
-
- >I also
- >support animal research on the grounds that it saves human lives.
- >Perhaps someday we won't have to do this, and we will be looked
- >back upon as barbarians, but killing animals is justified to save
- >lives. Hell, one of the most natural things to do is kill an animal
- >and eat it.
-
- Here I disagree, simply because I am unable to imagine an unnatural
- act, and so the notion of acts being more or less natural makes
- no sense to me. I personally object to killing of any kind,
- but I have no choice. I therefore treat it as an unavoidable
- tragedy, in the same category as suffering, and try to choose
- the best course according to the situation.
-