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- From: I3150101@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE (Benedikt Rosenau)
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- Subject: Re: God etc.
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 14:48:31 MEZ
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- John Emery types:
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- (Deletions)
- >The observed fact that humankind has always searched for something
- >outside of himself points to the conclusion that we are incomplete in
- >ourselves. Some might say it is a learned behavior, nevertheless if
- >we really didn't need something beside ourself and outside of ourself
- >then there wouldn't be such searching as is evident cross-culturally
- >throughout the ages.
-
- The same form of reasoning could be applied to explain the craving for
- drugs that can be found in any culture. You will probably regard that
- as a form of misguided urge for religion, but I doubt that you can come
- up with an experiment that can tell which urge is the original one:
- the one for drugs or the one for religions.
- Please note that there are people who lead lives without drugs and without
- religion.
-
- As far as the concept of learning goes, there are many, highly different
- forms of religions (if the term describes it at all) in different cultures.
- The common denominator is fairly small, and it has been often explained to
- be rather a social effect than one that can be explained from the individual
- alone.
-
- >There seems to be an inbred need for meaning, significance, and to
- >be loved. I have observed that it is through relationships that
- >we seek this: in marriage, in friendship, in partnership, in
- >child-parental bonds, etc.
-
- I doubt that people do so for meaning or significance.
-
- >Religion has been people trying to fulfill their deepest need of
- >having a relationship with the greatest person of all: God.
- >Oft times, it takes the form of rituals which seek to please this
- >Almighty One. Other times it is forms of service and good works
- >to accomplish the same.
-
- With the context given above, this is wrong. Most religions do not
- make statements about a single god. And under the assumption that
- the searching and supposed incompleteness is the effect of something
- that exists outside, how come that religious views of morality and
- service differ so much? Is there more than one cause for searching
- outside? If so, why do you restrict yourself to 'God'.
-
- The one way interaction you mention is not what I call a relationship.
-
- (Preaching deleted)
-
- >I realize that many people have many different ways to try and fill
- >this need. The fact of the presence of religion testifies to this.
-
- It is true, it exists outside, we long for it, and it exists of mutually
- contradicting subsets? I don't believe this.
- Benedikt
-