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- From: noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan)
- Subject: Re: Reconciling OT with NT
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:15:35 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec23.084332.2995@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye) writes:
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- |> If you believe that abortion is murder then it must be morally wrong at
- |> all times for everyone. It would be inconsistent to hold that it would
- |> be immoral for you if you were a woman to have an abortion but not for
- |> someone else to. Don't we all have an obligation to prevent an immoral
- |> act from occurring if we can do so without causing greater immorality?
- |> If so, to be morally consistent, you should do all that is legal to
- |> oppose abortion, such as voting against pro-choice candidates and
- |> voicing in public your opposition to abortion. You should not say that
- |> whether another has an abortion is their own business unless you believe
- |> that it is more immoral to try to influence the affairs of others than
- |> to allow murder.
-
- I agree. Consistency of belief is, IMHO, what everyone should strive for.
-
- |> We atheists of course avoid this problem because we deny the existence
- |> of a soul or any other kind of mind/body duality. Killing is wrong in
- |> our view not because it deprives a soul of its human body but because it
- |> deprives a sentient being of the esperience of life. The more sentient
- |> the being, the worse the crime. Killing an adult ape is thus worse than
- |> killing a fetus which is not yet capable of any self-awareness. In our
- |> eyes, it is morally inconsistent to be against abortion unless one is
- |> also a vegitarian.
-
- Oh , so *that's* what we atheists believe! :->
-
- Actually, I have to disagree. Perhaps its arrogant of me, but I'll
- pick the human over the animal any day, no matter the sentience
- level invovled. If you had a chance to save a baby or a grown
- gorilla from an onrushing truck, which would you pick? I also
- support animal research on the grounds that it saves human lives.
- Perhaps someday we won't have to do this, and we will be looked
- back upon as barbarians, but killing animals is justified to save
- lives. Hell, one of the most natural things to do is kill an animal
- and eat it.
-
- |> David Nye
- |> nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
-
- Mike Noonan
-