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- From: mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus)
- Subject: Re: Quotes from the Bible.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.080920.18223@jcnpc.cmhnet.org>
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:09:20 GMT
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- HEATHER LEE FYFFE (910773f@axe.acadiau.ca) wrote:
- : In article <BzCy0o.1v8@apollo.hp.com> stave@apollo.hp.com (Joel H. Stave) wri
- tes:
-
- [deletion of another round of the pi=3 argument]
-
- : >>|> The sun revolves around the earth
- : >Somewhere it mentions that God stops the sun in the sky. It didn't
- : >say that the sun *seemed* to stop moving in the sky, so it must be
- : >literally moving, so it must go around the earth, rather than the
- : >earth move around a stationary sun.
- :
- :
- : Yeah, that's what it says, in Joshua (I don't know offhand exactly where).
- : Once again though, remember that this was written by a man (Joshua himself I
- : believe, though I may be wrong), and for all the evidence he saw, the sun
- : stopped moving. I'm sure we all, as children, thought the sun moved until
- : someone explained to us how WE are the ones moving... Well, noone had
- : explained it to Joshua, as noone had figured it out yet. This statement by
- : a man is again no reason to conclude that God thinks the sun revolves around
- : the Earth.
- :
- :
- : >
- : >One thing to note. In the various arguments that I have had with
- : >people who believe the bible word for word, they invariably interperet
- : >what it says and twist the meanings to fit the facts. In *no* case
- : >have I ever been able to get them to admit that they are twisting the
- : >words and not taking it literally any more. The above interpretation
- : >of the pi = 3 problem is a perfect example.
- :
- :
- : You're exactly right. People will often twist the words to suit their own
- : meaning, However, this is not necessary. Taken in historical context, most
- : seeming questions explain themselves away.
- :
- :
- : Buzzard
-
- Since you're one for looking at the historical context, why is it that no-one
- else noticed that the sun stopped turning on its axis? For some people they
- would have noticed that the day was extra long, while others would have
- wondered why the dawn didn't arrive.
-
- Mike McAngus
- --
- (mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org) I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the
- whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law
- respection an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
- thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State." Jefferson
-