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- From: ednclark@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Jeffrey Clark)
- Subject: Re: Challenge to Agnostics
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- Date: 22 Dec 92 01:31:44 GMT
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- jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The One and Only) writes:
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- >>Prob. Beleif
- >>
- >>100 My own Existence
- >>100 Nothing else is 100% certain
- >>99.9999 I have sight, hearing, smell, touch and taste available.
- >>99.999 That my senses reasonably accurately relate to me the environment
- >>99.999 The existence of my body, friends, car, house, and everywhere I've
- >> been. Insert theory of probability and theory of gravity here.
- >>99.99 That Adolf Hitler existed, New York exists, and other things I see
- >> in reliable texts and communication mediums. You could probably
- >> insert the theory of evolution about here.
- >>99.9 That St Paul existed, William shakespeare and those things which are
- >> pretty well accepted but minor bits of doubt hang if only due to
- >> long periods of time between now and then.
- >>99 The existence of Jesus.
- >>50 That Jesus did actually think he was the son of a god, and did most
- >> of the things attributed in the bible.
- >>0.0001 That Jesus did any form of miracle, such as walk on water, resurrect
- >> Lazarus, or turn water into wine etc etc.
- >>0.0001 That there is some form of deity that magically can do amazing
- >> things that we should worry about (ie either worship or defend
- >> against).
- >>10^-10 That the judeo-christian God exists, and that Jesus is the way to
- >> heaven, and that a God would give a shit what we think of
- >> hime/her/they/it.
- >>
-
- >What about black holes, atoms, gravity, quarks?
-
- >What is your basis for assigning 100% probability to the statement that
- >nothing else is 100% certain?
-
- >At what point does a probability become so close to 100% or 0% as to be of
- >no real or practical difference? For example:
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- Well bloody hell, I couldn't put in everything (and I did mention gravity)!
- I think those 4 things could probably be assigned 99.99 except black holes
- which I'll put down on 99. All very subjective and probably changes from day
- to day. But basically anything 99% and above can be accepted as truth for
- me. Sometimes I will have to make a decision based on something I am only
- 50% sure about (say the statement all politicians are corrupted by power
- regardless of their good intentions upon entering politics), and then I have
- a dilemma. But anything up there around 99% or more, I will act in pure
- confidence that I am most probably right (noticed that I must qualify
- everything).
-
- >What is the difference between the world we live in and a world without God?
-
- In my view no difference, but it is not something I am 100% certain about.
-
- >or
-
- >What is the difference between the world we live in and a world with black
- >holes?
-
- Probably little, but I'm not 100% certain of that (we may be living in a
- cosmos without them now I wonder what vast changes in physical phenomena may
- be necessary to allow the existence of such beasts, it may be astonishing
- differences).
-
- >Jim Copeland
- >--
- >Have you washed your brain today?
- >--
- >| Reporter: "Mr. Gandhi, What do you think of Western Civilization?" |
- >| Mr. Gandhi: "I think it would be a good idea!" |
-
- Jeff.
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