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- From: rhuss+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Robert Huss)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:57:04 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec19.224717.1993@prime.mdata.fi>, iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
- |> Am I seeing wrongly, or is there a connection between one's IQ and one's
- |> religiousness? Of all people I know, I know only about 8 exceptionally smart
- |> people (IQ>125), and all of them happen to be atheists. On the contrary, the
- |> dumbest people I've seen (eg. unable to use a remote control) are the most
- |> religious. Observing other atheists that I don't know (from this group for
- |> example) leads me to make a conclusion that on the average, atheists have a
- |> much better sense of logic (and thus usually have a higher IQ) and think much
- |> more clearly than religious people. From my own experiences, I can say that
- |> freeing oneself from the grasp of religion requires a certain level of logical
- |> thinking. Coincidentally, all these 8 people are mathematically gifted.
- |> When I speak of atheism here, I mean it to be a lack of belief in any god or
- |> superstition.
- |> Opinions?
- |>
- |> BTW, if this offended you, go to a church instead of coming to alt.atheism.
- |> --
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- |> /o \/:--| Iikka Paavolainen / iikkap@mits.mdata.fi, in Espoo, Finland |
- |> \__~__/\:--| "I won't have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent." |
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- It is safe to assume that the more intelligent people will have
- thought about their beliefs more, and will probably reject many fundementalist
- concepts. Of my more intelligent friends, I would say they are certainly
- more tolerant of other beliefs, and more likely to be liberally religious,
- if not atheist. Clear thinking is great, and we all like to be clear thinking
- and have clear thinking friends, but clear thinking doesn't mean you will
- become an athiest. I have intelligent friends who have questioned the faith
- that they were brought up in, but have still come to terms with some form
- of religion, and are definitely not atheists. I would say that it is highly
- unlikely that you will become an atheist if you were raised in a certain
- religion, and are not very intelligent. Without intelligence it is difficult
- to change any views that you were socialized towards.
- I think it is very dangerous to start believing that any group
- you belong to is inherently supperior. This has been believed time and
- time again, and has been wrong time and time again. It is likely that we
- atheists tend to have friends who are atheists. Therefore, the people
- we know are both intelligent and atheist. This is not a very good
- reference for statistics.
- IMHO, intelligence will lead you to clear thinking, which may lead
- you to atheism, but I think clear thinking will also lead you to tolerance.
- Discussions like this are just breeding grounds for missunderstanding and
- anger. Especially comments like your last sentence.
-
- Bob Huss.
-