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- From: jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The One and Only)
- Subject: Re: Challenge to Agnostics
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:29:34 GMT
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- In article <ednclark.724898160@kraken> ednclark@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Jeffrey Clark) writes:
- >
- >Yes, knowledge is never absolute, it just has a probability of truth to the
- >owner of the knowledge. I am 100% sure of my own existence, and that other
- >than that and this beleif no other thing can be 100% certain. Just for the
- >record here is a run-down of my continuum:
- >
- >Prob. Beleif
- >
- >100 My own Existence
- >100 Nothing else is 100% certain
- >99.9999 I have sight, hearing, smell, touch and taste available.
- >99.999 That my senses reasonably accurately relate to me the environment
- >99.999 The existence of my body, friends, car, house, and everywhere I've
- > been. Insert theory of probability and theory of gravity here.
- >99.99 That Adolf Hitler existed, New York exists, and other things I see
- > in reliable texts and communication mediums. You could probably
- > insert the theory of evolution about here.
- >99.9 That St Paul existed, William shakespeare and those things which are
- > pretty well accepted but minor bits of doubt hang if only due to
- > long periods of time between now and then.
- >99 The existence of Jesus.
- >50 That Jesus did actually think he was the son of a god, and did most
- > of the things attributed in the bible.
- >0.0001 That Jesus did any form of miracle, such as walk on water, resurrect
- > Lazarus, or turn water into wine etc etc.
- >0.0001 That there is some form of deity that magically can do amazing
- > things that we should worry about (ie either worship or defend
- > against).
- >10^-10 That the judeo-christian God exists, and that Jesus is the way to
- > heaven, and that a God would give a shit what we think of
- > hime/her/they/it.
- >
-
- What about black holes, atoms, gravity, quarks?
-
- What is your basis for assigning 100% probability to the statement that
- nothing else is 100% certain?
-
- At what point does a probability become so close to 100% or 0% as to be of
- no real or practical difference? For example:
-
- What is the difference between the world we live in and a world without God?
-
- or
-
- What is the difference between the world we live in and a world with black
- holes?
-
-
- Jim Copeland
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