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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: The constancy of the universe
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.155335.3547@netcom.com>
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- References: <Bz7KqK.HsL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <kmr4.456.724286671@po.CWRU.edu> <BzFM1K.KA8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:53:35 GMT
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- In article <BzFM1K.KA8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> parker@ehibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes:
- >kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
- >
- >>In article <Bz7KqK.HsL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> parker@meibm4.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) writes:
- >>>We *do* really exist. We just don't "know" what it *means* to "exist"
- >>>(physically)...or what "really" means...or what "means" means...
- >
- >> "We"? Sorry, I do not know if you really exist...
- >
- >Yeah, sure, a non-sentient AI program could rattle off the post you just read
- >without batting a diode... UH HUH, suuuuuure.
- >
- >I didn't say you *knew* I existed, I said we *do* exist. Even if this
- >"elaborate computer simulation" we are in is *simulating* me, or you, or
- >anyone else is irrelevant. We still "exist" within the "reality" of the
- >simulation--which is as "real" as you're going to get.
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- There are other possibilities. For example, none of us exist except
- for yourself, and we are just figments of your imagination. This is a
- Berkeleyian style reality admittedly, but you get to play god.
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- >-Rob
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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