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- From: pfrankli@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Franklin)
- Subject: Bobbie Riconosciuto part 4
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:32:50 GMT
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- Date: December 12, 1992
- Place: Public Forum, Louden Nelson Center, Santa Cruz, California.
-
- Bobbie: I didn't know that they don't have to read you your
- rights anymore. I didn't know any of these things. I didn't
- know that men and women were put in holding cells pretty much
- together. I didn't know that male guards were allowed to be
- involved in some of the things that they are involved in with
- female prisoners. I was placed in protective custody. Someone
- in the state of Washington who was a part of the pool of people
- who was chosen to build a case against Michael sent the Napa
- County District Attorney a receipt for $2900 worth of plane
- tickets out of the country, for my children and I, in my name, so
- I was considered an extreme flight risk. I tried to tell the
- "Look, we're homeless (and) have been for a long time." The
- Justice Department already took everything that we had. They
- even took my son's stuffed animals, they took Elizabeth's video
- tapes when they went through our house before. The took every
- picture that I had of Michael and these children together. They
- took every picture of Elizabeth that I had and they made it a
- part of an open court record. If that isn't a threat, what is?
- Michael and I have been very careful with that five-year-old
- child to make sure that she had as normal a life as possible.
- She didn't do anything. None of my children did anything. I
- didn't do anything except stand together with Michael against
- something that's very wrong.
- Our rights in the country are gone. Michael did not have
- any rights. We did not have the right to unlawful search and
- seizure. They spent four days in my house. They went to my
- house with machine guns, knowing full well that if they had their
- way the only people there would be me and my four children. They
- spent four days in that house and on that property doing what
- they wanted, before they ever had a search warrant.
-
- Dave: If I may just interrupt briefly, Bobbie, that is why Rae
- has the Navel Intelligence agents attached to her, one of whom,
- by the way, was sitting next to her earlier in the evening. It's
- precisely to prevent people in Gunther's control structure trying
- to prevent that kind of direct pressure on Bobbie, and by way of
- integrating this with the lecture, and this is sort of a, like
- they say, a picture's worth a thousand words, this is a good
- example of the development, the ultimate cultivation of the
- historical process which I've been developing. People think of
- criminality as something that's inflicted in an innocent
- population by a handful of, or relative handful of (muffled)
- interlocutors, people who are wrong doers.
- What people don't think about and really do not anticipate
- is what's happened in the United States as a result of the
- implementation of fascism, of the corporate state during the
- course of the cold war - what happens when the State itself
- becomes criminal, when the criminality is coming not from your
- local Mafia or something like that, but when it's the local D.A.,
- backed by the government, and with the acquiescence of Congress.
- When the State itself becomes criminal, becomes lawless, there's
- no protection.
- There's an interesting anecdotal footnote to the process
- that Bobbie is describing - I'll turn things back over to her in
- a second. I started a new job a couple of months ago, and in the
- course of this job I was contacting retailers for neon signs,
- because I work for a business that's shopping around for a neon
- sign, and we contact our local business and a couple came over,
- they ran this business, and they were showing us their signs, the
- various kinds of neon signs they designed, we were going through
- this, and after going through this I went back and was doing some
- paperwork, and I heard them talk to my boss, and they were
- talking about a number of things that were going on with the
- campaign and they started talking about George Bush's father
- having been involved with deals with the Nazis during World War
- Two, and I said 'wait a minute, it's like they've been listening
- to One Step Beyond." I went over and introduced myself - they
- were wide eyed - it turns out they had been loyal listeners,
- religious listeners for more than ten years, and they had in fact
- gotten this information off of my program. Anyway, the footnote
- to that is that several days later, the woman came back, and they
- were having problems - you'll appreciate this Virginia - with the
- courts. They were involved in a lawsuit for something to do with
- their business, I don't know what, but it turns out the attorney
- who was representing them had in fact sold out to the opposition.
- He was selling them out and he was in cahoots with the judge.
- What the woman was asking me was, to whom could she turn? When
- her attorney is crooked, and when his criminality is in cahoots
- with the judge who is hearing the case. I told her to contact
- Harry Martin, and maybe through Harry, Virginia, because I really
- don't know what to recommend. In other words, she came to me,
- asking me what could she do?
- It reminded me of a case a couple of years ago where a woman
- who was under mind control, who was being subjected to
- microwaves, was talking to psychiatrists about what could she do
- to get out from under mind control, and the psychiatrist referred
- her to me. (He said) "The only person who could help me was Dave
- Emery." Now this is not to blow my own horn, but it's to
- indicate how far down we've gotten to when a psychiatrist is
- referring a patient to a political researcher for therapy, the
- situation is far gone. This woman came to me, I couldn't tell
- her what to do, because when her attorney is in bed with the
- judge, and they're both crooked, where are you going to turn?
- Again, when the state becomes criminal, when the state becomes
- lawless, all bets are off. Virtually everything we take for
- granted has changed.
- Every so often, on my radio program, I read a passage from
- "They thought they were free," by Milton Mayer. It's a series of
- interviews with people who lived in Germany during the rise of
- Hitler describing what the process was like. This one University
- professor says "Well, the thing that makes it so insidious is
- that everything appears the same: the holidays, the cinema, the
- shops. Everything looks the same and everybody's happy and
- everything seems the same, but things change gradually, bit by
- bit, and you don't notice the change because it's gradual. Step
- B is not so much worse than step A, so if you don't protest at A,
- why protest at B. Step C is not much worse than step B, so if
- you don't protest at B, why protest at C, and so on, all the way
- to Z.
- That's the situation we've gotten to in this country, when
- the president of the United States can be murdered and nobody
- gives a damn about it, then you've reached the state of official
- lawlessness which, in the end, will overtake everyone, the lives
- of private individuals. When you have a situation like Bobbie
- and her children are undergoing right now, where the criminality
- is coming from the criminal justice system itself, you have
- reached the ultimate in what was intended by the establishment of
- the corporate state and fascism, which has come to the United
- States during the Cold War. This is the culmination of the
- process that I was beginning to delineate historically, and here
- we have it experientially. This is what you get to when the
- crooks are the very people that are supposed to hold lawlessness
- in check, and that is the source of the lawlessness, and that is
- totalitarianism. That's what we've got. Go ahead Bobbie...
-
- Virginia: Can I say one thing?
-
- Bobbie: Certainly. You've been my mouth piece for as long as I
- can remember because you've helped me...
-
- Virginia: (Muffled statement) Anybody that has read the INSLAW
- report released by Jack Brooks House Judiciary Committee
- September [tenth] of this year will know that Michael
- Riconosciuto is exactly who he says he is and is attested to by
- the House Judiciary. Unfortunately there seems to be a hang up.
- What normally takes thirty days to publish, which is the
- supplemental report to the House Judiciary Report, which is the
- independent confirmation, that's the police report that places
- Mr. Brian on the Indian reservation...
-
- Dave: You might want to explain who that is.
-
- Virginia: Earl Brian is a so-called doctor, not really, but the
- Government made him a neurosurgeon overnight, coming back from
- Vietnam, actually went into some Vietnam fort where he, Mr.
- Riconosciuto, was to launder the money from our heroin trade in
- Vietnam out to the Nugan Hand bank in Australia.
-
- Dave: That is a form of neurosurgery, if you look at it in the
- overall strategic sense.
-
- Bobbie: And to be quite honest, he also does know how to do that
- and did make a film at one point showing how to dissect someone's
- hand while they were still alive for the purposes of
- interrogation.
- (to be continued)
-
- The right thing to do is never the easiest thing to do. The
- moral, ethical, and most compassionate imperative from within
- your heart may in fact be the most difficult. To be informed is
- important, to tell others is even more important, but without
- tangible action, our efforts are meaningless.
-
- Paul Franklin
-