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- From: pdchapin@unix.amherst.edu (PAUL D CHAPIN)
- Subject: Re: What is United States of America like?
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:11:33 GMT
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- David Veal (PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu) wrote:
- : In article <BzM8u5.JM3@unix.amherst.edu>
- : pdchapin@unix.amherst.edu (PAUL D CHAPIN) writes:
- :
- : >Jyrki Kuoppala (jkp@cs.HUT.FI) wrote:
- : >
- : >: I hear reports of kids trained to inform to the officials about their
- : >: parents.
- : >
- : >That's plan silly.
- :
- : I take it, then, that you've missed all the news reports on children
- : turning their parents in, usually for drug abuse, sometimes for other things?
-
- That wasn't the claim. The claim was that they were "trained". This implies
- a program of instruction. That's plain silly.
-
- :
- : >: I hear reports of proposed legislation to required every telephone or
- : >: other communication network operator be required to build taps for the
- : >: Government on all equipment.
- : >:
- : >Tapping a phone is not that difficult. It can be done anywhere. This country
- : >requires a court order in all but a few extreme cases.
- :
- : There's been far too much "Oops, you mean we were supposed to get
- : a court order?" Anyway, what with the advances in technology, it is getting
- : harder and harder to do taps. That's part of the big stink over encryption.
- : Even if they can do the taps, they want to be able to read the communications.
- If the court order isn't obtained, the evidence can't be used. It's called
- the exclusionary rule, I believe. Authorities have got enough to do to spend
- much time gathering evidence they can't use.
- :
- : >: I hear reports of a war being declared and fought in USA - a war
- : >: against "drugs", with the Bill of Rights being the major casualty.
- : >:
- : >Bullshit. The Bill of Rights is alive and well.
- :
- : No, the Bill of Rights is dead and buried. There are wisps of the
- : first still hanging around for, I would guess, sentimental value, but the
- : second through the tenth are, for all practical purposes, gone completely.
-
- Then why are conservatives still screaming tha the police had be handicapped
- by it? The only one I know that could be questioned is the interpretation
- of the due process clause. Everything else is doing fine in my neighborhood.
-
-