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- From: dnash@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Nash)
- Subject: It's the Kalki Dasa Show! (was Re: In case Bales has ...)
- References: <7630@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> <XF8HuB4w165w@kalki33>
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- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:48:22 GMT
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- In article <XF8HuB4w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
- >Now, ask us to prove that this Supreme Godhead has been observed, and
- >we'll tell you how you personally can observe Him.
-
- This is starting to get a bit far afield, but it was too precious to pass up.
-
- First, we scientists are usually less interested in "proof" (in the absolute
- sense of a mathematically or logically rigorous proof) than in coherent,
- testable explanations of what we observe; second, even if we did have such an
- interest, there's a bit of a problem with your approach, which the below two
- cases should make clear:
-
- Hypothetical case #1:
- I'm an LSD user. (I SAID this is hypothetical, dimwit ;-). I assert that
- on a regular basis the room I'm in turns into an amazing array of colors
- and shapes which seem to defy the Laws Of Physics (tm), or, in general, the
- way scientists believe nature and the world appears to work. You are
- skeptical. I offer to you the means to personally experience this.
-
- Hypothetical case #2 (more mundane, but simpler).
- About 25% of the times I wake up in the morning, I recall a personal
- observation that within the previous few hours I did/witnessed/otherwise
- experienced something that again clashed violently with said LOP.
- To experience something very similar, just take a long nap.
- (Note that I give this advice for free, you don't have to call a BBS ;-)
-
- (Please, no flames from the devout, I'm just trying to emphasize the
- idea expressed in the chant.)
- ------------------------------------------------------------
- Don't forget to chant:
- personal observation != proof
- proof != personal observation
-
- Followups to /dev/hell.
-
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- David Nash | Gradual Student, Chemistry
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